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Raymond Petry (acting_president@hotmail.com)
Tue, 24 Jun 1997 21:50:02 PDT


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Subject: Fwd: W3C automatic reply
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 21:50:02 PDT

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Subject: Frames vrs no-frames
Dear Sirs and Madams:
An adjustment to frames to bring them to expectation:
frame src=address, where address={} [may] be a blank, as you have 
indicated
but, where src is absent altogether [must] be the default self-same 
document
for example
when a calling document specifies doc.html#middle, both frames-agile and 
nonframes browsers must handle the case properly - specifically, the 
called
document should appear at the name=middle anchor [high as possible 
on-screen]
which means the frames-agile browser must feed-through the #middle 
parameter,
which is only possible if src is absent, not merely null-valued: as 
src=#top
must act as an override to the calling-document's requested #middle.
I've more to say, but I note that noframes ought also be a parameter 
within
the frame element to disable subsequent deeper framing [like outlines 
are
oft displayed only two or three levels deep on a given document] ....
I'll also say that it is not clear how you distinguish /frameset, body, 
and
noframes, unless you intend to have some portion of body rendered as I 
have 
explained above, and some portions within the body not rendered when 
framed.
And furthermore, NetScape and MSIE, having implemented frames without 
these
finishing touches, should 'fix' their browsers to send a terminate 
signal 
to the server [especially on 28.8K modems] upon recent of {noframes, 
etc.}.
Amazingly I have detected rendering in the thin line of the border on 
MSIE,
unless noframes is specified ....
I'd have wanted originally the possibility to include a frameset into 
the
header of an existing document to enhance itself with additional 
extra-frame
pointers and banners ... compatibility is not cheap nor expensive: it's 
true.
Sincerely.
Mr. Raymond Kenneth Petry
[also posted Deprecate Frames reentrancy by 
VirtualCustodian@mailmasher.com,
or one of my mailmasher accounts ... long story: mailmasher's not 
recovered]
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