Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:02:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Russell Steven Shawn O'Connor" <email@example.com> To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: Re: Entity for apostrophe? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95q.970730144312.23031Aemail@example.com> Walter Ian Kaye wrote: > At 1:25a +0200 07/27/97, Holger Wahlen wrote: > > Seeing that there are entity definitions for things like en > > dash, left double quotation marks and the likes coming up, > > I'm wondering why I can't find anything to represent an > > apostrophe . Okay, there's "’", but wouldn't it be > > better to have a name like "&apo;" as well? Imagine this: > > <!ENTITY rsquo CDATA "’"> > > <!ENTITY apo CDATA "’"> > > After all, the same glyph  is used in two different > > functions, so wouldn't it be appropriate to have two > > possibilities to refer to it? Apart from the mnemonic > > Technically, that is not an apostrophe. ' is, regardless > of whether it looks "curly" or not. One could easily argue that > using a right single quote as an apostrophe constitutes abuse... Actually ' has multiple meanings, single closing quote, apostrophe, part of a double closing quote, an acute accent, prime, feet, ... What should be added is <!ENTITY apo CDATA "ʼ"> Character number 700 is unabiguously an apostrophe. (I think that is the correct character number) Yes, using ’ as a apostrophe would be abuse. [snip] > And your use of "`" is correct? To me (and Adobe), that is a > grave accent which you are [mis]using as a left single quote. > That makes me shudder like fingernails on a chalkboard do. Ick. Character number 96 (`) also has multiple meanings. A single open quote, part of a double opening quote, a grave accent, backwards prime, ... Again Unicode has peticular characters, which may or may not look indentical, for all of these possible meanings. > >  Actually I'm not quite certain whether it really is the > > same: Does Unicode distinguish between `real' apostrophe and > > Ack, he did it again... a grave accent diacritic. His use is approprate. (see above) Someday I'm goign to look up the original meaning(s) for ` and ' in the ANSI X3.4 standard. For now I have been relying on the meaning given in the UNICODE 2.0 book. (Note: this character ` doesn't look much like a grave accent on my VT240 terminal) -- Russell O'Connor firstname.lastname@example.org <URL:http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/%7Eroconnor/> "And truth irreversibly destroys the meaning of its own message" -- Anindita Dutta, "The Paradox of Truth, the Truth of Entropy"