Re: Line spacing (was Re: Some complaints about HTML 4.0)

Jordan Reiter (jreiter@mail.slc.edu)
Sun, 13 Jul 1997 01:27:35 -0400


Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 01:27:35 -0400
Message-Id: <l03110702afede078949b@[198.77.183.213]>
In-Reply-To: <v0310285aafee135db046@[205.149.180.135]>
To: Walter Ian Kaye <walter@natural-innovations.com>, www-html@w3.org
From: Jordan Reiter <jreiter@mail.slc.edu>
Subject: Re: Line spacing (was Re: Some complaints about HTML 4.0)

At 5:13 AM -0000 7/13/97, Walter Ian Kaye wrote:
>At 12:53a -0400 07/13/97, Liam Quinn wrote:
> > At 09:43 PM 12/07/97 -0700, David Perrell wrote:
> > >Liam Quinn wrote:
> > >> While we're on this topic...  What about multiple BR elements?
> > >Should
> > >> these be collapsed?
> > >
> > >No, for the same reason as &nbsp;. HTML should not be an exercise in
> > >pedantry. Choose the interpretation that provides the most power of
> > >expression. Do not actively limit presentational possibilities for the
> > >sake of structural Puritanism.
> >
> > So would you do away with the HTML 4.0 draft's comment concerning empty
> > paragraphs:
> >
> > | Empty P elements are bad form and should be ignored by the renderer.
> > (http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-html40/struct/text.html)
> >
> > Empty P elements are similar to multiple BR elements in a lot of ways...
>
>Well, how would we do this in a word processor? We would set the style of
>a paragraph to have a certain size "space-before" value. Anyone who would
>use multiple returns needs to go read the book "The Mac is not a Typewriter"
>(which really is about word processing in general).
Except that occasionally, some people (gasp!) do create web pages with the
intention of people looking at them, and for whatever reason actually want
to create additional spaces.  All I know is that there is a big difference
between empty elements, and using a closed element several times in a row.
Heck, you can do it with images, can't you?  In fact, you could, if you so
choose, place 3 identical IMG elements in a row without so much as a fuss.
How different, then, are BR's?

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