Re: HTML 4.0 draft available

Liam Quinn (liam@htmlhelp.com)
Tue, 08 Jul 1997 18:13:28 -0400


Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970708181328.0087a620@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 18:13:28 -0400
To: www-html@w3.org
From: Liam Quinn <liam@htmlhelp.com>
Subject: Re: HTML 4.0 draft available
In-Reply-To: <l03010d00afe7d2262688@[198.77.183.81]>

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At 11:23 AM 08/07/97 -0400, Jordan Reiter wrote:
>I am somwhat bewildered by the sudden surge of "deprecated" attributes 
and
>tags.  I recognize that the existence of style sheets does make it 
possible
>to indicate the appearance of the web page, but I question the assumption
>that everyone has access to a browser that supports them;

I don't think anyone's making such an assumption.  Browsers that don't 
support style sheets ignore them, and get the properly marked up content 
instead.

>Assuming that most users will not be
>using the latest versions of software (heck, I still use Netscape 3.0),
>then it is foolish to assume that style sheets can cover your problems.

It is more foolish to assume that the now-deprecated hacks are suitable 
solutions to the problems.

>I have attempted using the BIG and SMALL tags in my documents to avoid 
the
>use of FONT SIZE= and have found it to be limiting and unpredictable.  
For
>pages where informational content is key, I could certainly use simple 
HTML
>formatting in conjunction with style sheets, but for pages that depend on
>visual appearance, especially for businesses, I will probably continue
>using these tags.

Am I the only one who sees warning lights when someone says that his Web 
page depends on visual appearance?

BTW, the HTML 4.0 draft looks great from my quick glance...  Congrats to 
all who gave their time and effort to create it.  One minor note:  On 
<http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-html40/present/graphics.html>, the ID attributes 
are used in conjunction with style sheets, but the CSS rules actually use 
CLASS as selector rather than ID.  For example, H1.wood should be H1#wood 
or, alternatively, <H1 id="wood"> should be <H1 class="wood">.

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