Re: Logo for user-friendly/browser-friendly/scalable pages

Walter Ian Kaye (walter@natural-innovations.com)
Fri, 29 Aug 1997 12:09:12 -0700


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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 12:09:12 -0700
To: www-html@w3.org
From: Walter Ian Kaye <walter@natural-innovations.com>
Subject: Re: Logo for user-friendly/browser-friendly/scalable pages

At 9:36a -0400 08/29/97, jptxs wrote:
 > At 05:04 PM 8/28/97 -0700, Walter Ian Kaye wrote:
 > >How about some sort of "geek code" (but not as geeky) where we enumerate
 > >what the page uses, something like:
 > >
 > >  Level 0: does not use
 > >  Level 1: optional
 > >  Level 2: required
 > >        Y: yes/true
 > >        N: no/false
 > >        *: any
 >
 > but how well would something like this degrade...

It's meant for disclosure to *humans*. Displayed on the page as content. :)


At 8:36a +0200 08/29/97, Chapman, Hass wrote:
 >  ----------
 > >From: Charles E. Carroll
 > >But I think there's a problem with the Any Browser Initiative as
 > >well.  Specifically, with the word "Any."  What about browsers
 > >that don't support current HTML standards?
 > > Lynx doesn't support tables, after all.  Do we eschew tables?  Yes, I know
 > >that many tables can be made Lynx-friendly with appropriate use
 > >of <br>, <p>, etc., and I do when I can, but 1) there are some tables
 > >which are not easily made Lynx-friendly, and 2) since tables are
 > >standard HTML, why should we have to write ugly code like that?
 >
 > I agree completely! It's nice to hear someone talking sense.

Actually, Lynx 2.5 and up display tables fine without extra <BR>s; it was
only 2.4.2 and earlier which needed them. So, just tell your ISP to upgrade
their version of Lynx if it's older than 2.5. (This has been a problem with
GEnie, which runs on Honeywell and Mark III mainframes; fortunately(?) they
are migrating to Unix boxes, so they should no longer need to use a deeply
hacked version of the old 2.4.2-FM...)

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