Re: end tags... (fwd)

MegaZone (
Tue, 24 Sep 1996 23:23:55 -0700 (PDT)

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Subject: Re: end tags... (fwd)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 23:23:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: MegaZone <>

Once upon a time Lee Daniel Crocker shaped the electrons to say...
>Of course they do.  If you want clean information, you have to
>take out things like physical markup and put them in style sheets--
>but then your code won't validate, because the "CLASS" attribute

You don't break the rules, you just change the ruleset and use the Cougar

Although I admit some of the last minute changes to 3.2 don't seem to 
have propigated over in the official Cougar DTD (Dave? Dan?)

>is not part of any existing DTD.  Of course we all know it will

The Cougar DTD exists, it is on the W3C web.

>I also sympathize with complaints that HTML is 10 times more
>complex than necessary, hopelessly ambiguous, unparseable, based

Am I some kind of wunderkind then?  I don't seem to have difficulty
writing HTML by hand and reading the DTD, creating new layouts, etc...
I do have an advantage of having started five years ago, but really it
wasn't a great deal simpler then, and we didn't have a tenth of the
reference material out today.

>on a spec that isn't even legally publishable on the Web, and
>not as expandable as it could be.  That doesn't mean I advocate

How is it not expandable?  I've watched HTML slowly move towards generic
SGML, and I fully expect that is where we will end up.

>ignoring it, but let's not sweep all the complaints under the
>rug and call the complainers uneducated; let's fix it.

I agree it needs improvement and expansion, but the attitude of "I don't
understand this so I'll just ignore it" is laughable.  It is naive at
best and blatantly stupid at worst.  Anyone who has written software,
designed electronics devices, etc, knows the importance of a standard
as a level playing field.  Any deviations from standard are fraught with

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