Message-Id: <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:25:08 -0500 To: Stewart Brodie <S.N.Brodie@ecs.soton.ac.uk> From: email@example.com (Murray Altheim) Subject: Re: Color Palette Incompatibilities Cc: firstname.lastname@example.org Stewart Brodie <S.N.Brodie@ecs.soton.ac.uk> writes: >Magenta & Cyan are the standard names for these colours. Quite why >people (Microsoft?) felt it necessary to rename them is a mystery. >Fuchsia is extremely vague (fuchsias come in a variety of colours). Comes from the original dyestuff for magenta (fuchsine), not the flower. I think the original color list came from SGI, not MS. But I too have a problem with "Cantaloupe Mist"-type color names... Earlier this year I proposed a simplified color naming specification, complete with hex values, etc. in reaction to the ugliness of the CSS color names: http://www.stonehand.com/doc/spec/webcolor.html My original proposal was meant as a _simple_ method of creating a color namespace, with hex values for specifying colors, since no other method is supported by current browsers. Chris Lilley (working at W3C) responded in depth (we had a long discussion about it, if anyone remembers), which if I remember correctly ended with a scientifically accurate conclusion, but one I don't think anyone can currently use. I still maintain that when one is working in mainstream computer systems with RGB monitors, that "common understanding" is that red-green-blue are the recognized primaries, with yellow-magenta-cyan the secondaries; on this I based my proposal. As Chris correctly pointed out, non-gamma-corrected RGB values are not platform-independent and therefore not suitable as an accurate specifier. He also disagreed with my RGB/CMY naming scheme and the fact that I didn't include a saturation modifier. I disagreed with his Munsell-based color names. As I mentioned, we had a long discussion about this which I don't see the need to rehash now. As anyone who has done any work in color or color theory, this issue gets quite muddled very quickly, and is not one that lends itself to a simple solution, which is what I was aiming at. Possibly adding a one or two-level saturation modifier to my proposal would provide a workable solution, but we really need browser support for CIE colors, which are truly platform independent. Mapping color names to CIE will still be problematic. I haven't followed any W3C developments in CNS color specification since June. Possibly Chris has moved farther ahead with his solution. Murray ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Murray Altheim, Program Manager Spyglass, Inc., Cambridge, Massachusetts email: <mailto:email@example.com> http: <http://www.stonehand.com/murray/murray.html> "Give a monkey the tools and he'll eventually build a typewriter."