From: firstname.lastname@example.org Message-Id: <9602252210.AA21936@zorch.w3.org> To: Matthew James Marnell <email@example.com> Cc: firstname.lastname@example.org, Subject: Re: Automatic Entry and Forms In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 25 Feb 96 14:23:43 EST." <199602251924.OAA07389@portia.portia.com> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 96 17:10:57 -0500 [On a terminal that does not make including text of original message possible] In answer to the points raised by Mathew, he seems to be proposing that I have not considered the privacy implications and am blind to them. Anyone who was at the recent Demographics workshop meeting would know that this is simply untrue. I raised the issue of personal privacy repeatedly and stated that a number of proposals would not fly because of their privacy implications. In addition I observe in a recent Internet draft that in the wron hands the I Internet could be a echanism for more effective surveilance than any historical dictatorship has had. I did not bring up the subject of Napoleon, Robert did. I thought the analogy offensive. I do not believe that comparisons to mass murderers should be made casually. The key point about privacy is consent. I may wish to provide information to a vendor which has privacy implications. Provided there is no coertion and provided there is informed consent I see no basis for a moral objection. I hand out sensitive demographic data to every mail order firm that I deal with, my name and address. I do this because without them it is difficult for the mail order company to check my credit card details and deliver the goods. With SET the credit card verificaion problem will be less, I still fail to see why the Web shouldn't make it easy for me to give my delivery address. Phill PS would people wanting to contiue this thread please make it clear that they have understood that it is merely automatic entry of field values we are discussing. Nobody is discussing automated *submission - except some people who have not read the proposal.