Re: My Friday-Before-Labor-Day Diatribe [Was: Frame document structure]

Murray Altheim (murray@spyglass.com)
Fri, 30 Aug 1996 17:43:50 -0500


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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 17:43:50 -0500
To: "David Perrell" <davidp@earthlink.net>
From: murray@spyglass.com (Murray Altheim)
Subject: Re: My Friday-Before-Labor-Day Diatribe [Was: Frame document structure]
Cc: www-html@w3.org

David Perrell <davidp@earthlink.net> writes:
>Murray Altheim wrote:
>> I have yet to see the "necessity" of frames. IMO it's another
>> whiz-bang gizmo that makes people feel their documents are more
>> sophisticated. And we have spent entirely too much energy on
>> whiz-bang gizmos at the expense of creating a Web capable of
>> building an information infrastructure for our expanding
>>knowledge base.
>
>Perhaps not necessary, but methinks desirable. I'm working on an
>interactive form at http://www.socrates.com/soc-cost.html . Except
>for IMGs, it's a single html file. [...]

I couldn't load that document, as I got a JavaScript Runtime error:

   [Line: 266] Object doesn't support this property or method.

which then crashed my copy of Internet Explorer 3.0.

>All computation and content
>generation are done client-side, so Results and Help are immediate.
>This could have been done without frames and Javascript, but consider
>the time and bandwidth eaten up by repeatedly querying the server for
>results. Not an excercise in whiz-bangery, this just seemed the most
>efficient way to do the job. The same approach could benefit
>non-commercial enterprises.

Your use of whiz-bang not only kept me from using the document, but crashed
my application. Consider the time, bandwidth, and frustration caused by
this. And consider the longevity of any similar document: maybe six months?

You seem to be making my point for me.

Have a good weekend all.

Murray

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