Re: Frames Are Improving

Murray Altheim (murray@spyglass.com)
Thu, 22 Aug 1996 17:42:49 -0500


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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 17:42:49 -0500
To: marc@ckm.ucsf.edu
From: murray@spyglass.com (Murray Altheim)
Subject: Re: Frames Are Improving
Cc: www-html@w3.org

>Murray Altheim <murray@spyglass.com> wrote:
>|I'd caution against making ANY assumptions about screen size or resolution
>|(which noboby has mentioned yet).
>
>There's a draft before the HTTP-wg [1] that attempts to address this issue:
>
>                                 ABSTRACT
>
>     User-Agent Display Attributes Headers provide a means for an HTTP
>     client  and server to negotiate for content dependent on the
>     client display capabilities.
[...]

Marc,

You are correct -- server-side content negotiation can certainly provide a
method to deliver content based on UA ability to handle it. But including
FRAME within HTML and promoting it as acceptable forgets one thing: few
document authors have either the server access or the knowledge to provide
content-negotiated solutions. Large organizations even have difficulty in
that authors are often not also server admins.

So I would suspect that the vast majority of frame docs on the Web are
provided with no content-negotiation alternative.

I was one of the minions who at one time was proposing client-side content
negotiation within HTML, but not many folks seemed interested. Seems SGML
marked sections were simply too obtuse, and registry was seen as a problem.
Of course, nobody blinks about inline scripting...

Murray

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