Re: Frames, my opinion

Stephanos Piperoglou (stephanos@hol.gr)
Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:29:01 +0300 (EET DST)


Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:29:01 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Stephanos Piperoglou <stephanos@hol.gr>
To: "Imagination's End" <I.End@bigpic.com>
cc: www-html@w3.org
Subject: Re: Frames, my opinion
In-Reply-To: <14172618700264@cjnet.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.960822202649.568A-100000@trillian.hol.gr>

On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Imagination's End wrote:

> I'm really not sure where this Frames debate is headed.  It seems the 
> only opposition is their misuse.  But look around at your desktop, 
> look at the multitude of frames that exist.  Your menu bar, toolbars, 
> taskbars, status line, etc...  All of these are what should / can be 
> achieved with frames.
> 
> Even if we have a mechanism for overlapping windows in HTML, I think 
> Frames are a very valuable addition.  Provided there is better 
> control over frames.  We need to be able to sepcify and EXACT size of 
> a frame, either in pixels or relative.  Leaving the sizing up to the 
> browser most often loses the effect of the frame.

Have you been reading ANYTHING on this list?:-)

HTML cannot have entities that specify exact width etc., and cannot be used
to mimic a GUI either, because *it is platform independant* and is not
designed to be rendered in any specific way! That's why frames are a drag -
they negate the very principles of HTML. Frames as an organizational tool is
another thing, but rendering them on speech renderers, braille systems or
even textual displays, or even low resolution displays is almost impossible.

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