Message-Id: <199608062315.QAA26338@orion> To: firstname.lastname@example.org, email@example.com Subject: Re: deprecated tags in Wilbur & Cougar -Reply -Reply In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 06 Aug 1996 15:58:40 CDT." <199608062058.PAA07537@predator.urbana.mcd.mot.com> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 16:15:09 PDT From: Mike Wexler <firstname.lastname@example.org> I don't think that classes should be standardized by W3C or by UA authors. I think authors and organization that create lots of documents should be able to create there own classes. I am currently working on a tool that exports FrameMaker documents to HTML. It takes the styles specified in the paragraph and character catalogs and generates a style sheet. It then will split a FrameMaker document (or book) into many HTML pages that are linked together. All of the link documents share the same style sheet. Documents that come from a common template will also be able to share style sheets. It would be unfortunate if the W3C or UA authors decided to limit the flexibility of CSS by specifying certain standardized classes. It would mean at a minimum, that tools like mine would have to check for all the prespecified classes and avoid them (no telling if the author of a FrameMaker document really meant paragraph tag FOO to mean the same as W3C's class FOO. > If classes are going to be useful (by which I mean if they are going to > leaed to reusable stylesheets), they need to be standardized. The scope > of the standard determines the useful scope of reusability of the > stylesheet (a continuum from totally non-reusable-even-by-the-author to > reusable by any author). I think we will get de facto standard > stylesheets courtesy of the major UA vendors in pretty short order. > > Further, if classes are to be used to convey semantic information that > is useful to tools (such as indexers), they must be standardized or the > information the classes encode is unusable. Classes should not be used to convey semantic information to indexers. This should be left to element tags and other attriubtes. > My own take on this is that we need a much larger standard set of > elements and we need an effective social mechanism for getting new > elements standardized quickly. If we need a much larger set of standard elements, than lets create them. Maybe the solutions is to get the UAs to start handling SGML documents with DTDs specified by a URL. Than any organization could create a DTD that matched the needs of its members. Some DTDs might be shared by a large number of organiations. Others might be specific to a certain author.