Re: Suppress scroll bars - an idea

lilley (lilley@afs.mcc.ac.uk)
Thu, 6 Jul 1995 11:32:48 +0100 (BST)


From: lilley <lilley@afs.mcc.ac.uk>
Message-Id: <2527.9507061032@afs.mcc.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Suppress scroll bars - an idea
To: murray.altheim@nttc.edu (Murray Altheim)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 11:32:48 +0100 (BST)
Cc: www-html@www10.w3.org
In-Reply-To: <v02110104ac2079876dab@[192.188.119.193]> from "Murray Altheim" at Jul 5, 95 01:24:32 pm

Murray

You have mixed up your attributions here.

> >Mike Batchelor said:
> >
> >> Walter Ian Kaye once wrote...
> >> > You could choose an arbitrary page size, but that would be making many
> >> > assumptions. At least be sure no graphic is wider than 470 pixels, because
> >> > that is the standard imaging area width for Netscape and Mosaic browsers
> >> > when used on screens 640 pixels wide. Anyone with a 512-pixel wide screen
> >> > or smaller would get the wrong size, although they're probably used to it
> >> > already. ;)
> >
> >You should either apply your "no bigger than" argument rigorously - and I bet
> >someone could find a platform somewhere with a narrower screen width than
> >512 pixels - or apply your "probably used to it" argument to 640 pixels...

Mike did not say that, I did.

> I for one am VERY glad that
> we have hard-of-sight and blind constituents, as serving their needs will
> keep us on track. A strange angle possibly, but valuable. (I *try* to
> remember the ALT attributes on my IMG elements.)

Yes. I hope you did not assume from my comments that I hold a contrary 
position. I was just arguing against Walter Ian Kaye's 640 pixels hueristic,
pointing out the problems with it.

A tutorial I gave at Eurographics UK earlier this year addressed the problems 
of the print disabled. Have a look at:

http://info.mcc.ac.uk/Docs/ActiveWeb/eg-uk-tut.book_9.html

especially if you are unsure what to put in your ALT attribute. The answer is 
often nothing, ie ALT=""

Disclaimer: the HTML in that document was automatically generated (by 
            Webmaker). Yes, I know it is awful. 

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