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Fwd: Re: character entities using hex

From: Gerald Oskoboiny <gerald@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:17:05 -0400
To: www-html-editor@w3.org
Cc: Masayasu Ishikawa <mimasa@w3.org>
Message-ID: <19991028171705.D4615@w3.org>

It seems there is a problem in the HTML4.decl shipped with
PR-html40-19990824 . I glanced at the www-html-editor archive
and didn't see this there already, so here it is.

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attached mail follows:

Ann Navarro <ann@webgeek.com> wrote:

> I've got a student who's attempted to use the hex representation for a few
> character entities, and the validator is throwing up an interesting error: 
> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fmembers.xoom.com%2F_XOOM%2Fne
> t_miner%2F02%2Fcharent.html

There's nothing wrong in this document.  This document is valid.

> eg: 
>  <LI>Hexadecimal: <STRONG>f7</STRONG> &#xf7;
>   Error: "XF7" is not a function name
> Aside from likely interoperability problems in using the hex version --
> what is the validation issue here? 

The SGML declaration used in the validator is broken, namely, failed
to support Web SGML Adoption. I thought we have fixed this problem [1]
long time ago, but the bug arises again.

The validator currently uses the following SGML declaration, which is


And even worse, PR-html40-19990824 failed to fix this problem as well,
despite this have been listed in the HTML 4.0 Specification Errata [2].
We MUST fix this problem.

[1] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/validator/htdocs/sgml-lib/REC-html40-971218/HTML4.decl?r1=1.1&r2=1.2
[2] http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html40-updates/REC-html40-19980424-errata.html

Masayasu Ishikawa / mimasa@w3.org
W3C - World Wide Web Consortium
Received on Thursday, 28 October 1999 17:17:08 UTC

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