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Re: Question to XForms authors and implementors: Multiple help, hint, alert elements per form control?

From: Joern Turner <joernturner@me.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:20:31 +0100
Message-id: <4830C67E-9D36-4A08-B18A-636E299842F7@me.com>
To: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
Cc: "www-forms@w3.org" <www-forms@w3.org>


On 10.12.2009, at 01:33, John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com> wrote:

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> Forwarding to public discussion list www-forms so that this question  
> is also available to non-WG implementers and authors.
>
>
> From:	"Klotz, Leigh" <Leigh.Klotz@xerox.com>
> To:	<www-forms-editor@w3.org>
> Cc:	<public-forms@w3.org>
> Date:	12/09/2009 01:48 PM
> Subject: 	Question to XForms authors and implementors: Multiple  
> help, hint, alert elements per form control?
>
>
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> In XForms 1.1 [1] the inline content model and linked schemas allow  
> a plurality of help, hint, and alert elements per form control.
> For example, at the end of section [2]:
>
>  Content Set                 Minimal Content Model
>  UI Common                  (help|hint|alert|Action)*
>
> The Recommendation text gives no indication what more than one would  
> do.
>
> I raised this issue today [3] in the Forms WG teleconference.
>
> In the past, there was group discussion about the advisability of  
> using multiple label elements distinguished by xml:lang attributes,  
> and we decided to support only one label element.  One argument was  
> that I18N best practice calls for external references.
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> As far as I can tell, we had no discussion about multiple help,  
> hint, or alert elements, and I believe their allowance is a result  
> of insufficient precision in the inline content model.
>
> We have proposed that a future erratum for XForms 1.1 note in the  
> prose that multiple such elements per form control is at best not  
> interoperable, and further that the schema definitions for which it  
> can be conveniently disallowed be changed to do so.
>
> Are any implementors assigning special meaning to multiple help,  
> hint, and alert elements?
No, in Chiba we support only one of each kind.

>
> Leigh.
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> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/REC-xforms-20091020/
> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/REC-xforms-20091020/#N74868
> [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Dec/att-0021/2009-12-09-v2.html#topic5
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