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Re: namespace question

From: Erik Bruchez <ebruchez@orbeon.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:07:47 -0700
Message-Id: <31F4B4FF-9109-4D28-A000-FC282C7BBD54@orbeon.com>
To: www-forms@w3.org

Don't quote me on this, but I don't think you need to output it,  
because the default namespace of a document is "" anyway. I don't  
believe it is wrong to output it (i.e. an XML parser will not  
complain), but it won't serve any purpose.

This said, you probably don't have to write that code yourself, right?  
There must be in Mozilla some existing XML serialization code already?

FWIW in our implementation, the serializer (from Saxon) does not  
output xmlns="" on the root element.

-Erik

On Jul 17, 2008, at 9:47 AM, Aaron Reed wrote:

>
> Hi Nick,
>
> Yep, we know it is a bug in Firefox that the root namespace from the  
> host document is making into the submitted document as the default  
> namespace when the default namespace was given to be empty.  But  
> what we'd like to know is whether a default empty namespace should  
> be placed on the submitted document at all.  If the first default  
> namespace we see is empty as we work our way up the tree, should we  
> NOT output it and from then on ignore the default namespace or  
> should we output it?
>
> Thanks,
> --Aaron
>
> Nick_Van_den_Bleeken@inventivegroup.com wrote:
>> Hi Swithun,
>> Your problem is a bug in Firefox, the default namespace of the  
>> submitted instance should be the empty one. You have correctly  
>> specified this on your in-line instance.
>> I searched the Firefox XForms bugzilla database and found a bug  
>> report for this problem https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=445285 
>> . You probably want to vote on this bug report.
>> Regards,
>> Nick Van den Bleeken  -  Research & Development Manager
>> Inventive Designers
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>> www-forms-request@w3.org wrote on 07/11/2008 03:23:10 PM:
>> >
>> > Hello
>> >
>> > I have a small puzzling problem. I have an XForms document where  
>> the
>> > default namespace is declared as so:
>> >
>> > <html xmlns=" <http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml>http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml 
>> " ...
>> >
>> > (with all the other namespaces there too)
>> >
>> > Then, in one of the instances, the default namespace is declared  
>> as empty:
>> >
>> > <xf:instance id="text_instance">
>> >    <tei:TEI xmlns=""> ...
>> >
>> > But then, when this instance is submitted, it shows up as:
>> >
>> > <tei:TEI xmlns=" <http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml> <http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml 
>> >http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" ...
>> >
>> > I would like to get rid of this default namespace declaration. I  
>> would
>> > rather not have to use a non-default namespace for the XHTML  
>> elements.
>> > Shouldn't the xmlns="" inside the instance override the  
>> xmlns="http..." in
>> > the ancestor html element?
>> >
>> > Does anyone have any ideas? I'm using Firefox (2.0.0.14/0.8.5). I  
>> can ask
>> > on the Mozilla XForms list if anyone thinks it is a implementation
>> > specific problem.
>> >
>> > A copy of the form is here:
>> > <http://swithun.servebeer.com/namespace.xhtml> <http://swithun.servebeer.com/namespace.xhtml 
>> >http://swithun.servebeer.com/namespace.xhtml
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Swithun.
>> >
>> >
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