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Re: Forms TF Process

From: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@x-port.net>
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:35:34 +0000
Message-ID: <a707f8300802180535k5a47ef63g49d84cb6f01e1879@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Anne van Kesteren" <annevk@opera.com>
Cc: "HTML WG" <public-html@w3.org>, www-forms@w3.org

Hi Anne,

Ok. But hopefully now we're all up to speed on what has been going on
over on the XForms side. This should help you in your own decisions as
to whether you now want to 'go it alone', or try to pick up the
discussions we had before.

Speaking for myself, I don't see a strong case either way. I'm keen to
see XForms relate much more directly to 'traditional' HTML forms, so
that authors and implementers have a natural path from one to the
other. But whether that should encompass HTML 5 Forms I'm less certain
of--one could argue it both ways.

(The 'for' is that it would of course be good if the W3C had a
coherent and consistent forms vision. But the 'against' is that the
design goals of HTML 5 seem to be quite different to the approach
being taken with language modularisation, illustrated by such things
as @role, RDFa, and now XForms, that this may simply not be possible.)

I would suggest that the next step is for the XForms WG to get out a
draft of some of these ideas, and then you guys can take a look and
see if it works for you.

Regards,

Mark

On 18/02/2008, Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:20:10 +0100, Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@x-port.net>
> wrote:
> > I don't think we need to load every discussion with statements like this:
> >
> >   though it seems that our collegues (sic) in the Forms WG have lost
> >   interest...
> >
> > I assume it's obvious that this cuts both ways?
>
> To be honest, I'm not really sure what I could've done more. I've set up
> the website and created the charter. As I mentioned in the teleconference
> I wasn't really sure how XForms could just replace HTML Forms given how
> incompatible it was, not just in syntax, but also in the way it works. I
> believe I also mentioned that I expected input on how they could integrate
> to mostly come from the Forms WG, but that hasn't come.
>
> The HTML WG (and also the WHATWG) meanwhile has been waiting with working
> on any HTML Form related work waiting on feedback from the Forms TF. Hence
> my e-mail to indicate that we might want to start working on HTML Forms
> work again as the Forms TF doesn't make progress at this point.
>
>
> --
> Anne van Kesteren
> <http://annevankesteren.nl/>
> <http://www.opera.com/>
>


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