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Re: repeats

From: Lee Standen <nom@standen.id.au>
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:36:15 +0800
Message-ID: <454AF16F.2020202@standen.id.au>
To: jeacott@hardlight.com.au
CC: www-forms <www-forms@w3.org>

No, I didn't miss the point, that's what the specification says it 
should do.

See my other post, for what should be a solution...again I don't know if 
it works with any or all implementations.

Jason wrote:
> Hi Lee,
>     I think you've missed my point.
> Insert now only seems to work if you actually have some data.
> if you start with data - remove it all with <delete... at.../>
> then <xforms:insert bind="bind_1" at="index('repeat_1')" 
> position="after"/> no longer does anything at all.
> I've tried chiba, the firefox extension, and formsplayer and they all 
> behave this way.
> Lee Standen wrote:
>> Yep, insert works by duplicating the previous set of nodes, which you 
>> can then use <xf:setvalue> to clear as necessary.
>> There was a trick somewhere to actually have a 'template' to pull the 
>> new set of records from...I'll try and find it.
>> Jason wrote:
>>> Hi all, Today I decided it was time to upgrade the version of chiba 
>>> I've been using for my xforms only to find that its behaviour has 
>>> changed. I checked a few other implementations and they all seem to 
>>> agree on this point, so I'm totally confused.
>>> up until now I've been using a trigger with something like:
>>>  <xforms:insert bind="bind_1" at="index('repeat_1')" position="after"/>
>>> in order to allow form users to add items to lists. BUT if they 
>>> remove all the items from the list then this no longer works and I 
>>> apparently need a completely different button to get the first item 
>>> on the list again. Is this true? My existing copy of chiba just 
>>> inserts, even if there are currently no items in the list. how is 
>>> this supposed to work? how have people built real life forms to cope 
>>> with this odd behaviour(imho)
>>> I've had another look at the w3c position for xforms 1.0 and it seems 
>>> to suggest that this behaviour is designed (unless the "homogeneous 
>>> collection" is actually meant to mean the collection that exists at 
>>> form startup including any implied nodes from binding lazily? )
>>> ref: http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms/slice9.html#action-insert
>>> The homogeneous collection to be updated is determined by evaluating 
>>> the Node Set Binding. If the collection is empty, the insert action 
>>> has no effect.
>>> The rules for selecting the index are as follows:
>>> b) If the result is NaN, the insert appends to the end of the node-set.
>>> c) If the resulting index is outside the valid range of the node-set, 
>>> it is replaced with either 1 or the size of the node-set, whichever 
>>> is closer.
>>> so how should a shopping cart for example actually be built?
>>> I want:
>>> add item
>>> remove item
>>> checkout
>>> I dont want an append item for the case that there are none items, 
>>> and I really dont want to have to specially bother with the zero case 
>>> (how is this done anyway?).
>>> what am I missing?
>>> much lost
>>> Jason.
Received on Friday, 3 November 2006 07:41:48 UTC

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