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Re: Why doesnt Xforms allow submission responses to target specified model.instance.node replacement?

From: T. V. Raman <raman@users.sf.net>
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:33:46 -0700
Message-ID: <17564.45722.863096.18342@localhost.localdomain>
To: jeacott@hardlight.com.au
Cc: mark.birbeck@x-port.net, www-forms@w3.org


I thought Micah's python tool did some of ref resolution for you?

>>>>> "Jason" == Jason  <jeacott@hardlight.com.au> writes:
    Jason> ah - cool, thanks Mark, thats an encouraging step
    Jason> forward. One day I'll be lucky enough to get the
    Jason> chance to use Xforms 1.0+ ;-) The next thing that I'd
    Jason> really like to see is a good dev environment for
    Jason> xforms. Building them by hand and getting them to work
    Jason> seems to take me an age - especially when I havent
    Jason> done it for a while. I've tried the eclipse plugin but
    Jason> its still not quite what I'm after. for bread & butter
    Jason> forms I tend to just use my little formbuilder form
    Jason> these days, but for anything special it takes me a
    Jason> while. The fact that I cant "compile" or otherwise
    Jason> verify that at least all my refs resolve before I
    Jason> start testing is something that wastes a lot of time I
    Jason> think.
    Jason> 
    Jason> Thanks again Jason.
    Jason> 
    Jason> 
    Jason> 
    Jason> 
    Jason> 
    Jason> Mark Birbeck wrote:
    >> Hi Jason,
    >> 
    >> This was indeed a glaring omission in XForms 1.0, but it
    >> was to a large extent rectified in an erratum...there is
    >> now an attribute on xf:submission to identify the instance
    >> to replace with the results, so preserving your original
    >> request.
    >> 
    >> This still doesn't allow you to target a particular node
    >> to be replaced, but when combined with the new @origin
    >> attribute on xf:insert (in XForms 1.1) you can easily move
    >> things around in the xforms-submit-done event handler.
    >> 
    >> The @instance attribute on xf:submission is described
    >> here:
    >> 
    >> <http://skimstone.x-port.net/node/99>
    >> 
    >> The new xf:insert features are described here:
    >> 
    >> <http://skimstone.x-port.net/node/339>
    >> 
    >> Regards,
    >> 
    >> Mark
    >> 
    >> 
    >> On 23/06/06, Jason <jeacott@hardlight.com.au> wrote:
    >>> 
    >>> Hi all, I keep running into this and wishing that Xforms
    >>> supported it.  Is there any reason why as part of the
    >>> xforms submission element there isn't or couldn't be the
    >>> option for something like: <xf:submission id="dostuff"
    >>> action="someaction" method="post"
    >>> replace="instance('somethingotherelse')/response"
    >>> ref="instance('myxmlservicesblock')//getsomething" />
    >>> 
    >>> this bit:
    >>> replace="instance('somethingotherelse')/response"
    >>> 
    >>> is what I'm interested in.  would be mega handy for
    >>> returning error messages and other info a user might be
    >>> interested in without having to be sure to collect the
    >>> the entire submitted instance + any extra stuff for every
    >>> submission that might have extra info attached.  It would
    >>> also make using soap etc much easier because a bunch of
    >>> preconfigured soap 'templates' could then be easilly used
    >>> and reused.  the only way I know to do this currently is
    >>> to submit an instance containing a soap request with
    >>> replace="instance" then do something with the result, at
    >>> which point you cant resubmit if you want to because your
    >>> request is gone.(or can you? is there a way?)
    >>> 
    >>> maybe this would work - havent tried it and it sounds
    >>> horrible.  maybe when you want to do the submission again
    >>> you could delete the instance root and then create a new
    >>> one so that your original "default" xml gets rebuilt?
    >>> would that work?
    >>> 
    >>> just a question - it doesn't seem to me that this kind of
    >>> addition would violate the xforms ethos at all.
    >>> 
    >>> any thoughts?  Regards Jason
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>

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