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Re: Additions to section 7?

From: T.V Raman <raman@google.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 09:26:30 -0700
Message-ID: <17458.40502.680653.463204@retriever.corp.google.com>
To: steven.pemberton@cwi.nl
Cc: raman@users.sourceforge.net, mark.birbeck@x-port.net, www-forms@w3.org

well, cant edit anything as long as I'm not participating in
teleconferences ;-);-)

Steven Pemberton writes:
 > 
 > Is this an offer to help with the editing ;-)
 > 
 > Steven
 > 
 > On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 15:12:21 +0200, T. V. Raman  
 > <raman@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
 > 
 > >
 > >
 > > This is a great discussion, and it is even better to see it
 > > happening on www-forms.
 > >
 > > Next, since these changes are concrete, I'd strongly urge the WG
 > > to turn it into spec-ready text and publish a public Working
 > > Draft.
 > >
 > > One thing we did well during the 1.0 timeframe and later started
 > > slipping up on is to publish regular Working Drafts --- as the
 > > XForms community grows out beyond the WG, it is important to
 > > retain momentum by ppublishing early and often.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >>>>>> "Mark" == Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@x-port.net> writes:
 > >     Mark> Hi Allan,
 > >     Mark>
 > >     Mark> All good suggestions:
 > >     Mark>
 > >     >> 1) Get the default |instance| element when no parameter is
 > >     >> given to getInstanceDocument()
 > >     Mark>
 > >     Mark> Yes...good idea.
 > >     Mark>
 > >     Mark>
 > >     >> 2) Make it possible to iterate over all instance documents
 > >     Mark>
 > >     Mark> Good idea. And if your next suggestion is added (number
 > >     Mark> 3) then you could also iterate the instance elements
 > >     Mark> themselves to get all the documents.
 > >     Mark>
 > >     Mark>
 > >     >> 3) Add "shortcut" for getting the instance document
 > >     >> directly from the |instance| element.
 > >     Mark>
 > >     Mark> Just pondering how this might be done. One thought is
 > >     Mark> to go the way that the SVG group have gone, and just
 > >     Mark> have a 'get' function (they have getSVGDocument()).
 > >     Mark>
 > >     Mark> Another possibility is a bit more 'abstract', and that
 > >     Mark> is to link this to the more general notion of 'shadow
 > >     Mark> trees'. I don't know if you have such a function at the
 > >     Mark> moment for your XBL, but there may be some crossover
 > >     Mark> here; some general function that applies to other
 > >     Mark> elements too, could be used to 'get the hidden data
 > >     Mark> associated with this element'.
 > >     Mark>
 > >     Mark>
 > >     >> 4) Make it possible to get from an instance data node to
 > >     >> the |instance| element in the form.
 > >     Mark>
 > >     Mark> That's an interesting one. Wouldn't the interface for
 > >     Mark> DOM nodes have to be modified? That could get a little
 > >     Mark> tricky.
 > >     Mark>
 > >     Mark> Out of interest, what sort of use cases are you
 > >     Mark> thinking of for this? Is it so that you can find out
 > >     Mark> the model? Or do you want to get to other nodes in the
 > >     Mark> same instance as a node you already have?
 > >     Mark>
 > >     Mark> One last thing, do you have a way to obtain the
 > >     Mark> instance node that is bound to a particular control?
 > >     Mark> I'm sure you do, but that might be a useful method to
 > >     Mark> standardise on. It could even be the same method as
 > >     Mark> used for 'get the hidden data associated with this
 > >     Mark> element' in number 3, above.
 > >     Mark>
 > >     Mark> Regards,
 > >     Mark>
 > >     Mark> Mark
 > >     Mark>
 > >     Mark>
 > >     Mark> Mark Birbeck CEO x-port.net Ltd.
 > >     Mark>
 > >     Mark> e: Mark.Birbeck@x-port.net t: +44 (0) 20 7689 9232 b:
 > >     Mark> http://internet-apps.blogspot.com/ w:
 > >     Mark> http://www.formsPlayer.com/
 > >     Mark>
 > >     Mark> Download our XForms processor from
 > >     Mark> http://www.formsPlayer.com/
 > >     Mark>
 > >     Mark>
 > >
 > 
 > 

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-- T. V. Raman 
Received on Tuesday, 4 April 2006 16:27:47 GMT

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