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RE: DENG Modular X-Browser distributed under GPL

From: Claus Wahlers <claus@ego7.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 01:32:50 +0100
To: "'Klotz, Leigh'" <Leigh.Klotz@pahv.xerox.com>, "'Micah Dubinko'" <MDubinko@cardiff.com>, <www-forms@w3.org>, <tvraman@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "'Claus Wahlers'" <claus@codeazur.com>
Message-Id: <20040212003259.80DAE3F40D3@dr-nick.w3.org>

leigh,
okay, so we are d'accord.
that's what we are planning at the moment.
development of an open compiler would be very useful to those who don't
natively speak actionscript (or don't want to) as well as to flash
developers (macromedia does not offer a separate, commandline compiler, just
as part of their ide, which is definately not the greatest piece of software
on earth, nor very cheap).
the fvm7 (flash player 7) supports 256 registers in contrast to the fvm6, so
there would be plenty of room for a more straightforward and performant
implementation. would you or anyone else here be interested in joining
forces concerning that?
btw, such a compiler could also be extremely useful for a serverside
environment.
cheers,
claus.
codeazur.com


-----Original Message-----
From: www-forms-request@w3.org [mailto:www-forms-request@w3.org] On Behalf
Of Klotz, Leigh
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 1:22 AM
To: 'Claus Wahlers'; Klotz, Leigh; 'Micah Dubinko'; 'www-forms@w3.org';
'tvraman@us.ibm.com'
Cc: 'Claus Wahlers'
Subject: RE: DENG Modular X-Browser distributed under GPL


Claus,
Server-side SWF generation wasn't what I was proposing. 
DENG may be authored in ActionScript, but the run-time engine is the flash
bytecode engine.
There are other ways to generate flash bytecodes, just as there are other
front ends for JVM bytecodes, and CLI in the Microsoft world.
ActionScript, while widely used in the graphic arts community, is considered
esoteric in the software community.
One part (though not the greatest part surely) of your achievement is the
mastery of ActionScript.
It's possible that a different way of producing the DENG runtime SWF would
let you leverage others who are not going to learn ActionScript.
Of course, it may turn out to be more work than the benefit gained.

Leigh.


-----Original Message-----
From: Claus Wahlers [mailto:claus@ego7.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 3:47 PM
To: 'Klotz, Leigh'; 'Micah Dubinko'; www-forms@w3.org; tvraman@us.ibm.com
Cc: 'Claus Wahlers'
Subject: RE: DENG Modular X-Browser distributed under GPL


> Now that DENG is open source, open option for moving forward 
> and leveraging more community effort would be to port Deng 
> to a different SWF front-end. Ming might be powerful enough 
> to do this, or perhaps someone has built a good python or 
> similar front end for it.
> http://ming.sourceforge.net/

leigh, what exactly do you want to achieve? serverside swf generation? there
are pro and cons doing that, and deng v2 should work both ways, server- and
clientside. the main task would be to write an opensource actionscript
compiler:
Received on Wednesday, 11 February 2004 19:33:25 GMT

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