W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > www-forms@w3.org > July 2003

Re: "Suspend and Resume" Mechanism

From: Doug Schepers <doug@schepers.cc>
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 20:33:11 -0700
Message-ID: <007d01c3525d$79948ac0$3101a8c0@Raven>
To: <www-forms@w3.org>

Hi, Shailesh-

I can certainly appreciate wanting to keep options open for implementors;
maybe the Spec could have several options as to how such a mechanism might
be realized.

But my real reason for asking about such mechanisms is that I'm attempting
to implement some XForms support in SVG, and I'd like to hear about any
details for save/restore functionality within an XML framework.

Thanks-
-Doug

"Karandikar, Shailesh" wrote:
>
> I agree that a standard would promote uniformity.
>
> On the other hand, adding too many features in a standard will either
> prevent innovation
> or the features would simply not be adopted due lack of full generality.
>
> I think 'Save/Restore' functionality falls into this category. I can
imagine
> a wide variety of mechanisms to allow offline features, including XQuery
> support as well. It would be best to keep this as a part of UA property.
>
> Regards,
> Shailesh
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Schepers [mailto:doug@schepers.cc]
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:56 AM
> To: www-forms@w3.org; xforms@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: "Suspend and Resume" Mechanism
>
>
>
> Hi-
>
> I'm wondering if any more thought has gone into the specifics of
> save-restore? I realize that this will most likely not be included in the
> Spec for some time, but I'm curious to read any speculation for a
mechanism
> as to how this might be accomplished.
>
> I see that XFrames takes a URI string of concatenated attribute-value
pairs
> [1], and have also seen a cookie approach used, but neither seems
> particularly elegant, in terms of the XML context in which XForms
operates.
> Has anyone discussed other methods of doing this?
>
> I would be very interested in seeing a standardized method making its way
> into the Spec.
>
> Thanks-
> -Doug
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/xframes/#s_populating
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 29, 2003, Roland Merrick wrote:
> >
> > Greetings Andrew, XForms 1.0 has no explicit support for
> > "Suspend and Resume" so it is still a future requirement.
> >
> > It would be possible for an implementation to add some support
> > for such a feature but general support would require
> > consideration of where the suspended form would reside: local
> > storage, server storage. Suspend at any time or only at defined
> > checkpoints? There are probably other issues to be considered
> > such as how the function might relate to the related subject of
> > offline form completion.
>
>
> On Monday, May 05, 2003, Steven Pemberton wrote:
> >
> > > Is saving / suspend and resume firmly on the agenda
> > > for XForms 2.0?
> >
> > It is still on the agenda, but what we have concluded is that it
> > is expressible as a user-agent property, not an XForms property.
> > That is to say any XForms user agent can do save-restore now for
> > XForms, without us having to change XForms. We may add it
> > explicitely in the future depending on the ratio of people who
> > want us to add more, to people who want us to add less...
>
>
>
>
> **********************************************************************
> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they
> are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify
> the system manager.
>
> **********************************************************************
>
Received on Thursday, 24 July 2003 20:33:22 GMT

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.2.0+W3C-0.50 : Saturday, 10 March 2012 06:21:55 GMT