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RE: Proposal for Extensions to HTML4

From: Subramanian Peruvemba (PV) <subramanian.peruvemba@oracle.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:49:06 -0800
To: "'Ian Hickson'" <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: <www-forms@w3.org>
Message-ID: <000001c3bb47$51307c30$6501a8c0@speruvemlap>

>>The name is temporary and will probably change at some point. 

The earlier the better.

>>
>>The current name was a suggestion by Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer 
>>(one of the members of the working group).
>>

Suggestion from anybody still does not legitimize the use of "XForms Basic",
when it has **really** nothing to do with XForms.

>>
>>Note that the official W3C XForms 1.0 Basic Profile draft has, as I
understand 
>>it, no serious backing.  It consists of XForms with extremely little
removed;
>>for example XPath, XML Events and even basic XSchema are still required.
It 
>>thus does not really address the market that "Basic" specs usually
address.
>>

This is was the kind of argument that created other "compact" markup
languages for mobile devices and now we know where that went. Now there are
growing list mobile devices support complete HTML4.0 and CSS (Well you know
better)

>>
>>I base this claim directly on statements made by XForms working group
members
>>and the people implementing (and not implementing) XForms. 
>>

You are welcome may justify it. IMHO, claims esp. in a spec proposal needs
be factual in nature rather than based on some suggestions by somebody.
Statements like "XForms is aimed at the specialist form" is an assumption
(at best) and is a claim by the new proposal that is **not** the stated
objective of XForms spec.

Also the statement makes a rather bold assumption that the new proposal is
going to be accepted by a wider community.

>>
>>Most XForms demonstrations I have seen have been either local files
editing local
>>files, or remote XForms translated into HTML+JavaScript on the fly before
hitting the 
>>client. 
>>

Please look at the XForms (the actual XForms) implementation page and follow
through to some implementers website. You will find examples, that are
XForms working on user agents.

>>
>>I would hope that "political statements" would not affect your 
>>judgement of a technology's worthiness. 
>>
Hmm, when it seems to have affected the spec author. It only natural for an
casual reader.

PV
Received on Friday, 5 December 2003 10:51:01 GMT

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