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Re: Other controls ? Grid ?

From: <tvraman@almaden.ibm.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:47:41 -0800
Message-ID: <15451.14125.308729.281683@bubbles.almaden.ibm.com>
To: werner.donne@re.be
Cc: www-forms@w3.org

Well said!
The other thing to note is that XForms is not a stand-alone document
type.

As a consequence, a repeat structure can look drastically different
depending on whether it is being embedded in an XHTML Basic, XHTML
Full, or XHTML+SVG document 
Werner Donné writes:
 > Hi,
 > 
 > The form controls in XForms are only an abstract specification of what
 > kind of
 > interaction is desired in a certain situation. An XForms implementation
 > is not
 > obliged to always map a certain form control to the same GUI control. A
 > stand-alone
 > input control could be mapped to an edit field, while an array of input
 > controls in
 > a repeating structure could produce rows in a grid control.
 > 
 > The possibilities depend on the sofistication of the XForms
 > implementation.
 > If you have a table-like structure in your form, you express that
 > abstractly
 > with a repeating structure containing the needed controls. This is what
 > guarantees
 > portability of forms.
 > 
 > Regards,
 > 
 > Werner.
 > 
 > > Other controls ? Grid ?
 > > 
 > > From: DESEYNE Jacques (jacques.deseyne@swift.com)
 > > Date: Fri, Feb 01 2002
 > > 
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 > > Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 09:45:39 +0100
 > > From: DESEYNE Jacques <jacques.deseyne@swift.com>
 > > To: www-forms@w3.org
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 > > Subject: Other controls ? Grid ?
 > > 
 > > All,
 > > 
 > > From my lecture of the current Last Call draft (I've discovered XForms only very recently), it would seem that an XForms
 > > specification is not really intended to provide a framework for generic User Interfaces. It lacks several controls commonly found in
 > > widely-used GUI “foundation classes”.
 > > 
 > > Among other things, one 'control' we frequently need is a kind of grid or table, to present a set of tuples. In principle, it would
 > > be possible to mimic a grid by repeat structures, but the appearance and behaviour will be slightly different, in the best case. Of
 > > course, one could always envision to make her/his own non-standard extensions...
 > > 
 > > Maybe I am missing something and I should apologise for not having read some requirements document, but what was the motivation to
 > > limit the defined controls to more or less what is already available in HTML forms ?
 > > 
 > > Best regards,
 > > 
 > > --
 > > Jacques Deseyne
 > > 
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--raman
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