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RE: One more possible hole in UI?

From: T. V. Raman <tvraman@almaden.ibm.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:13:26 -0800
Message-ID: <15035.44646.670214.699594@bubbles.almaden.ibm.com>
To: Kelly Campbell <camk@channelpoint.com>
Cc: "'tvraman@almaden.ibm.com'" <tvraman@almaden.ibm.com>, Berin Loritsch <bloritsch@apache.org>, XForms Mailing List <www-forms@w3.org>
personally I prefer a separate element to encode the
semantic difference rather than using an attribute.

Using the "password semantics" do do encryption etc is valid
--
the problem with a name like "password" is people then ask
"can I use this thing only for passwords ?"
(of course that is always the problem with naming anything--
>>>>> "Kelly" == Kelly Campbell <camk@channelpoint.com> writes:

    Kelly> I would prefer the first choice. I think
    Kelly> passwords should have different semantics than
    Kelly> plain text fields. That would allow passwords to
    Kelly> have further security constraints besides what is
    Kelly> echoed to the user. For example, in the
    Kelly> submission protocol, some type of encryption
    Kelly> scheme could be added for the password data when
    Kelly> not using SSL or something, or access to the
    Kelly> password data could be restricted for client-side
    Kelly> java scripts, etc. If you remove the semantic
    Kelly> notion of it being a password field, you lose
    Kelly> this ability.

    Kelly> An alternative to 1) or 2) could be something
    Kelly> like this: 3) <textbox type="password"
    Kelly> style="echo-char: '#'">...</textbox>

    Kelly> What do you think?

    Kelly> -Kelly -- Kelly A. Campbell Software Engineer
    Kelly> <camk@channelpoint.com> ChannelPoint, Inc.
    Kelly> <camk@merlotxml.org> Colorado Springs, Co.


    >> -----Original Message----- From: T. V. Raman
    >> [mailto:tvraman@almaden.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, March
    >> 23, 2001 12:41 PM To: Berin Loritsch Cc:
    >> tvraman@almaden.ibm.com; XForms Mailing List Subject:
    >> Re: One more possible hole in UI?
    >> 
    >> 
    >> the two choices I am presently considering are: 1)
    >> Have a <password>...</password> element analogous to
    >> textbox
    >> 
    >> 2) (preference as of last two days) <textbox
    >> echo="*">...</textbox> (default value of echo echoes
    >> chars as you type --echo ="*" displays '*' echo ="#"
    >> displays '#'
    >> 
    >> Since you say you're implementing this, what would
    >> your preference be?
    >> 
    >> By the way, I'll respond to the other half of your
    >> first note in the next couple of days-- >>>>> "Berin"
    >> == Berin Loritsch <bloritsch@apache.org> writes:
    >> 
    Berin> "T. V. Raman" wrote:
    >> >> coming in the next draft.
    >> 
    Berin> (Password textbox issue)
    >>
    Berin> Is there any way to get a feel for the current
    Berin> discussion on this?  Is this going to be a CSS
    Berin> style element?
    >>
    Berin> The reason I ask is that I am writing a server
    Berin> side form processing system based on the XForms
    Berin> spec, and if I have to augment the current XForms
    Berin> with current needs--I want to do so in a fashion
    Berin> that is closest to what the end spec is going to
    Berin> be.
    >> 
    >> -- 
    >> Best Regards, --raman
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Best Regards,
--raman
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