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RE: textbox vs. textarea

From: T. V. Raman <tvraman@almaden.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 07:29:16 -0700
Message-ID: <15188.19388.298577.964098@bubbles.almaden.ibm.com>
To: "Josef Dietl" <josef@mozquito.com>
Cc: "Roman Huditsch" <r.huditsch@hico.com>, <www-forms@w3.org>
Also see my followup to this thread about the next draft
using textarea to semantically distinguish fields where the
author wants the user to type in substantial amounts of
content.

    Josef> Roman, I'm glad we agree about the CSS approach.

    Josef> Yes, I do have an idea when the next draft should
    Josef> be there. But I hope for your patience and
    Josef> understanding: While we do our best to keep our
    Josef> internal timelines, plenty of things beyond our
    Josef> power can creep up and spoil the plans. For that
    Josef> reason, we are not going to make public promises,
    Josef> instead we will announce every new specification
    Josef> to this mailing list as soon as it's public. To
    Josef> give you a feeling of the orders of magnitude:
    Josef> There is a W3C rule that every Working Group must
    Josef> publish a new specification approximately every
    Josef> three months. For the reasons given above, this
    Josef> rule is not strictly enforced. Some groups are
    Josef> faster, others are slower.

    Josef> While this is a fairly soft statement, I hope it
    Josef> does the job for the time being.

    Josef> Josef

    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: Roman Huditsch [mailto:r.huditsch@hico.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 1:04 PM
> To: Josef Dietl
> Cc: www-forms@w3.org
> Subject: AW: textbox vs. textarea
> 
> 
> Well I think too that using CSS properties would be the best 
> way to make
> sure that every browser (or nearly every browser) displays 
> the boxes as
> the "programmer" would like them to be. 
> Do you know how long it will approximately take until a new 
> realease of
> the XForms-spec.?
> 
> Yours,
> Roman
> 
> 
> 
> -----Ursprü    Josef> ngliche Nachricht-----
    >> Von: Josef Dietl [mailto:josef@mozquito.com]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Juli 2001 12:55
> An: Roman Huditsch; www-forms@w3.org
> Betreff: RE: textbox vs. textarea
> 
> 
> Hi Roman,
> 
> as per yesterday's telephone conference, I am temporary officially
> responsible to organize the information flow between this mailing list
> and the XForms Working Group. Please consider the reply given below my
> personal opinion until it is confirmed by the Working Group 
> next Monday.
> 
> To answer your question: No, there is no way to declare that a textbox
> has rows=10 and cols=50. This mechanism of specifying sizes has turned
> out to be inflexible to say the least. ("Unreliable" is another term
> that comes to mind.) Main difficulties were charset dependencies and
> internationalization concerns.
> 
> We have settled to define the size of the textbox through the 
> usual CSS
> mechaisms and the constraints (length, allowed characters etc.) in the
> model. As far as I know, you can approximate the "old" effect by
> specifying <textbox style="width:50ex; height:10em" ...>. Other units
> (e.g. cm or %) will obviously be more reliable.
> The remaining open question that we are aware of is how to specify
> wrapping / non-wrapping boxes. If there is more to do or the 
> solution is
> unsatisfactory for you, please let us now.
> 
> I will confirm or correct this message around 24 July.
> 
> Josef
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roman Huditsch [mailto:r.huditsch@hico.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 12:18 PM
> > To: www-forms@w3.org
> > Subject: textbox vs. textarea
> > 
> > 
> > Hi again!
> > 
> > Reading the specification again, I missed the possibility of 
> > declaring a
> > textarea as in HTML. Is ther a way in Xforms to display a 
> > textbox, which
> > has for example rows=10, cols=50 ?
> > Thanks and best regards,
> > Roman
> > 
> > > Roman Huditsch (RH ) 
> > > 
> > 
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