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RE: textbox vs. textarea

From: Josef Dietl <josef@mozquito.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:33:59 +0200
Message-ID: <D0F1529EE943B3449F755CA1A40887461D34B7@winserver.windomain.mozquito.com>
To: "Roman Huditsch" <r.huditsch@hico.com>
Cc: <www-forms@w3.org>
Roman,

I'm glad we agree about the CSS approach.

Yes, I do have an idea when the next draft should be there. But I hope
for your patience and understanding: While we do our best to keep our
internal timelines, plenty of things beyond our power can creep up and
spoil the plans. For that reason, we are not going to make public
promises, instead we will announce every new specification to this
mailing list as soon as it's public. To give you a feeling of the orders
of magnitude: There is a W3C rule that every Working Group must publish
a new specification approximately every three months. For the reasons
given above, this rule is not strictly enforced. Some groups are faster,
others are slower.

While this is a fairly soft statement, I hope it does the job for the
time being.

Josef

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roman Huditsch [mailto:r.huditsch@hico.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 1:04 PM
> To: Josef Dietl
> Cc: www-forms@w3.org
> Subject: AW: textbox vs. textarea
> 
> 
> Well I think too that using CSS properties would be the best 
> way to make
> sure that every browser (or nearly every browser) displays 
> the boxes as
> the "programmer" would like them to be. 
> Do you know how long it will approximately take until a new 
> realease of
> the XForms-spec.?
> 
> Yours,
> Roman
> 
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Josef Dietl [mailto:josef@mozquito.com]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Juli 2001 12:55
> An: Roman Huditsch; www-forms@w3.org
> Betreff: RE: textbox vs. textarea
> 
> 
> Hi Roman,
> 
> as per yesterday's telephone conference, I am temporary officially
> responsible to organize the information flow between this mailing list
> and the XForms Working Group. Please consider the reply given below my
> personal opinion until it is confirmed by the Working Group 
> next Monday.
> 
> To answer your question: No, there is no way to declare that a textbox
> has rows=10 and cols=50. This mechanism of specifying sizes has turned
> out to be inflexible to say the least. ("Unreliable" is another term
> that comes to mind.) Main difficulties were charset dependencies and
> internationalization concerns.
> 
> We have settled to define the size of the textbox through the 
> usual CSS
> mechaisms and the constraints (length, allowed characters etc.) in the
> model. As far as I know, you can approximate the "old" effect by
> specifying <textbox style="width:50ex; height:10em" ...>. Other units
> (e.g. cm or %) will obviously be more reliable.
> The remaining open question that we are aware of is how to specify
> wrapping / non-wrapping boxes. If there is more to do or the 
> solution is
> unsatisfactory for you, please let us now.
> 
> I will confirm or correct this message around 24 July.
> 
> Josef
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roman Huditsch [mailto:r.huditsch@hico.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 12:18 PM
> > To: www-forms@w3.org
> > Subject: textbox vs. textarea
> > 
> > 
> > Hi again!
> > 
> > Reading the specification again, I missed the possibility of 
> > declaring a
> > textarea as in HTML. Is ther a way in Xforms to display a 
> > textbox, which
> > has for example rows=10, cols=50 ?
> > Thanks and best regards,
> > Roman
> > 
> > > Roman Huditsch (RH ) 
> > > 
> > 
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