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Re: XForms CR - A further departure from XPath 1.0?

From: Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer <schnitz@webaccess.mozquito.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 02:30:43 +0100
Message-ID: <15725893.1037319892043.JavaMail.SYSTEM@webaccess>
To: "JOHANSSON, Justin" <Justin.JOHANSSON@baesystems.com>, <www-forms@w3.org>, <www-forms-editor@w3.org>, <Xforms@yahoogroups.com>, <AndrewWatt2001@aol.com>

John, Andrew,

I felt like having to say "stop", if that came out too hard, I do apologize.

Andrew does not need to involve the entire world and accuse the WG of
things that turn out not to be true - and give us some time to digest,
answer
and reflect before making final statements or even accusations - the working
group has been very open - if no one stands up and says stop when we simply
can't follow anymore - then there is no real communication and then we get
accused of not communicating. Saying stop has nothing to do with high-priest
or servant, on the contrary, it's because we all want to seriously answer,
help
and communicate and we care if we don't get a chance to do so.

- Sebastian

----- Original Message -----
From: "JOHANSSON, Justin" <Justin.JOHANSSON@baesystems.com>
To: <www-forms@w3.org>; <www-forms-editor@w3.org>; <Xforms@yahoogroups.com>;
<AndrewWatt2001@aol.com>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 12:59 AM
Subject: RE: XForms CR - A further departure from XPath 1.0?


>
> Re Andrew Watt's comments as copied below.
>
> If Andrew Watt has misunderstandings of the XForms spec due to lack of
> clarity in the CR,
>
> what hope have mere mortals got when we come to implementing from or
> otherwise
>
> using the spec.
>
> I think the WG should appreciate the effort that Andrew has put into
> commenting on the CR
>
> even though his comments may seem pedantic.  Sebastian should get off his
> high horse and
>
> realise he is a servant, albeit a voluntary one, of the public standards
> community and not
>
> a high priest.
>
> Thank you, Andrew, for daring to ask the questions that you have as these
> have challenged
>
> my own understanding of the spec.
>
> Justin Johansson
> Intranet Developer
> BAE SYSTEMS AE SYSTEMS
> justin.johansson@baesystems.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Andrew Watt <<
>
> I know it is difficult for WG members to appreciate that readers of a CR
> have only the words of the CR to base their comments on.
>
> You guys know what you mean to say. We on the outside can only attempt to
> arrive at your meaning by reading the words you guys write. If you don't
> write clearly enough we get misunderstandings.
>
> I have separately asked for clarification about what does or does not
> constitute "instance data" and "instance data nodes". An equally clear
> answer to that would let me make further progress in understanding what
the
> WG is attempting to communicate.
> >>
>
>
> [CARMEN]
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