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Re: Wording in section 3.3

From: thierry michel <tmichel@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:50:32 +0100
Message-ID: <009501c1a414$ed6365a0$228a608a@inria.fr>
To: <tvraman@almaden.ibm.com>, "Micah Dubinko" <MDubinko@cardiff.com>
Cc: <www-forms-editor@w3.org>
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----- Original Message -----
From: <tvraman@almaden.ibm.com>
To: "Micah Dubinko" <MDubinko@cardiff.com>
Cc: <www-forms-editor@w3.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 11:32 PM
Subject: Wording in section 3.3


>
> No requiring any such thing.
> Basically nuke the "hence ..." sentence, and we are done.
> Micah Dubinko writes:
>  > Section 3.3 Model
>  >
>  > 1) Minor editorial issue: capitalization should be "model", matching
the
>  > capitalization of the element name described, as throughout the rest of
the
>  > document.
>  >
>  > 2) Clarification needed: For the sentences:
>  >
>  > "Hence, model elements occur before the user interaction markup."
>  > and
>  > "The content of element model is typically not rendered."
>  >
>  > It is unclear whether these sentences are talking about XHTML+XForms or
the
>  > general case of an arbitrary containing document that allows XForms
>  > elements. Further, the sentences seem to be statements or observations,
not
>  > imposing any suggestion or guideline for an author of an
XForms-containing
>  > document profile.
>  >
>  >
>  > Suggest adding a section in the "Document Structure" chapter called
>  > "Containing Documents", that gives firm guidance to future XYZ+XForms
>  > document profile authors. The section should include the above
sentences,
>  > recast along the following lines:
>  >
>  > "XForms Processors may require that model elements only occur before
the
>  > user interaction markup, and thus a containing document should enforce
this
>  > ordering on XForms elements."
>  > and
>  > "The content of element model is typically not rendered, and thus a
>  > containing document should accept model elements at a position where
they
>  > will not be rendered."
>  >
>  > Since there are unthinkably many possible containing document types,
these
>  > statements are "should" (not "must"), to allow for cases where the
guideline
>  > simply can't be met.
>  >
>  > An example of how both of these guidelines are met by placing
<xforms:model>
>  > inside <html:head> might be helpful here.
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  >
>  > .micah
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> --raman
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