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Re: Fonts WG Charter feedback

From: John Hudson <tiro@tiro.com>
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:12:57 -0700
Message-ID: <4A52A119.3070200@tiro.com>
To: Thomas Lord <lord@emf.net>
CC: "www-font@w3.org" <www-font@w3.org>
Thomas Lord wrote:

> If we boil that down, you object to circumstances
> which have people:
> 
>    [...]benefiting from my work [..] enjoying
>    value that my work adds [...] [yet] giving me
>    absolutely nothing in return, not even respect.
>    [....] [Browser makers are an example.]

That conflates two separate points, in a way that makes it easy for you 
to address only the second. I made the point about browser makers 
largely as an afterthought, and I don't want it to get in the way of the 
main point which is this:

Rightly or wrongly, type designers and font developers see TTF/OTF 
linking as simply font filesharing, opening the door to the totally 
unregulated and practically unpoliceable copying and using of any font 
anywhere. [If you think that fear is unfounded, it is up to you to 
convince type designers and font developers that they are wrong and that 
this isn't going to happen. The trouble is, it is their work and their 
livelihood that is being deliberately put at risk by a second party, not 
yours, so don't be surprised if you have a hard time convincing them or 
if they ask you to put your money where your mouth is.] You wanted to 
know what would motivate font vendors to object to TTF/OTF linking -- 
with or without a secondary format that may or may not, but probably 
won't, be significantly less open to piracy --, and I suggested what 
might motivate type designers (who might also be font vendors but might 
also not), which is the proliferation of unlicensed use of fonts and 
hence unlicensed benefit from the added value of our work.


Now, as I have expressed elsewhere in this discussion, I am not 
necessarily opposed, personally, to TTF/OTF linking. I am seeking to 
explain to you why your presumptions about the *reasons* for objections 
from font makers/vendors might be incorrect or, at least, incomplete.

Ironically, I am growing less favourable to TTF/OTF linking as this 
discussion progresses, so maybe you want to stop talking. :)

JH
Received on Tuesday, 7 July 2009 01:13:42 GMT

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