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Re: Updated Editor's Draft of DOM3 Events

From: Simon Pieters <simonp@opera.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 09:05:56 +0100
To: "Doug Schepers" <schepers@w3.org>
Cc: "www-dom@w3.org" <www-dom@w3.org>
Message-ID: <op.u7fvf32didj3kv@simon-pieterss-macbook.local>
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 08:35:13 +0100, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote:

> Hi, Simon-
>
> Simon Pieters wrote (on 1/27/10 3:24 AM):
>> Thanks for the updates and the heads-up.
>
> And thanks for your review.
>
>
>> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:50:33 +0100, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> * deprecated DOMActivate
>>
>> It still requires DOMActivate to be fired, though. We'd like to remove
>> it completely in Opera, and thus also remove the requirement that it be
>> fired in the spec (or remove it completely from the spec).
>
> I hadn't yet gotten around to modifying the section of the spec on  
> activation behavior [1].  I have now done so, and did indeed clarify the  
> relationship of 'click' and 'DOMActivate' events as default actions.  
> Please let me know if the new wording works for you, or if you find  
> someplace else that 'DOMActivate' is lurking.

Ok. Look good on a quick read.


>>> * added 'trusted' property to events, first draft of trusted events
>>> description, and discussed trusted events where appropriate
>>
>> Does trusted need to be exposed to Web authors? Or is the concept enough
>> for other specs to hock onto? I don't see a 'trusted' property on events
>> in Opera, Firefox or WebKit.
>
> Not necessarily.  However, I got several requests to add it [2], and it  
> is a useful distinction to make, so I added it.

[2] seems to ask for the concept to be defined.


> I can see a possible use case for authors in mixed-source documents  
> (mashups, etc.).

Hmm. Yeah maybe. :-)


> I'm not wholly satisfied with the definition, myself, so I am open to  
> suggestions.
>
>
>>> * removed new interface-specific initialization methods, and made
>>> event initialization more streamlined
>>
>> Could you expand on this?
>
> Based on telcon feedback from Mozilla and Microsoft, I reverted back to  
> the previous initialization behavior.  So, this is no longer relevant,  
> though you can read a previous draft where I'd changed it, if you are  
> still interested.

Ok.


> [1]  
> http://dev.w3.org//2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#event-flow-activation
> [2] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8117
>
> Regards-
> -Doug Schepers
> W3C Team Contact, SVG and WebApps WGs
>


-- 
Simon Pieters
Opera Software
Received on Monday, 1 February 2010 08:06:26 GMT

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