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Re: Summary of DOM Test Suites status

From: Dimitris Dimitriadis <dimitris@ontologicon.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:08:42 +0100
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Cc: www-dom-ts@w3.org
To: Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org>
Good, it seems that we all agree on that we want to give implementors 
the option to run the same DOM TS in different harnesses, depending on 
their needs.

In order to intensiffy this last part of producing the suite, I would 
again like to ask everyone to do the following, which would facilitate 
bringing it all together:

1. Send me a short description of the partculars you've been working on 
(except for the tests themselves and the transforms). This could be 
building, harness, validating, and so forth.
2. Check through your own work before we start the review period that 
was postponed two weeks ago.

Send me any documentation, notes, or pointers so that I can start 
producing the final documentation without having to dig through the 
etnire mailing list archive.

What we want, and obviously can, is to produce one set of code per 
binding and then llet implementors use a harness that suits their needs. 
Since we want to be able to let people test theis browser using a page 
on the DOM TS hierarchy, we are thinking of changing the old NIST 
harness to do this. This harness will use the same code that any 
packaged DOM TS will, so the only difference is that in this case people 
run the TS online, whereas they download the DOM TS in the latter case.

As I have been asked to do a demo for the DOM WG during the 13-14 
November DOM WG F2F, I'll primarily be trying to get things up and 
running on my machine (I've changed to Mac OS X, so if any of you have 
experience either on this platform or Linux, please advise).

So let's start three threads:
1. Ecma harness (here I believe the people that will work are Mary, 
Dimitris and if I remember correctly Jason)
2. Java (all, Philippe)
3. Documentation (Dimitris, with the contribution from all, especially 
Fred)

Packaging is straightforward, as is building. This still needs to be 
documented, though.

Best,

/Dimitris

On Monday, October 29, 2001, at 05:12 PM, Philippe Le Hegaret wrote:

> (Dimitris, Mary and I had a phone call on Friday to summarize the 
> status of the
>  DOM Test Suites.)
>
> The main concern was the harness of the future DOM Conformance Test 
> Suites. As
> I pointed out in this past, it is not possible to rely the test suites 
> and the
> harness on the GNU license. The test suites were bound to the W3C 
> license, but
> the harness for JUnit is under the GNU license unfortunately (GPL 
> license, not
> LGPL). GPL and W3C license are not compatible and we cannot recommend
> people/companies to use the *Unit frameworks only. We can certainly 
> point
> people to the *Unit of course but the Java and ECMAScript DOM 
> Conformance Test
> Suites will need to use a different one. After a few discussion, we 
> agreed to
> reuse what was possible from the existing harness and develop the 
> missing bits
> by reusing the NIST harness. We'll point people to the two harnesses 
> (new one
> and *Unit) and people will have a choice like that. Mary is going to 
> take care
> of the ECMAScript harness. I will do the Java one (Mary needs to send 
> him the
> appropriate bits to start with). We need to make sure that the same 
> tests are
> run and in the "same way" in the two harnesses, thus making no 
> difference as
> far as choice of harness is concerned. We are still missing the DOM 
> Level 1
> HTML Test Suite. Given that DOM Level 2 HTML is not backward 
> compatible, a DOM
> Level 2 HTML test suite would be more appropriate. Mary will see what 
> can be
> done in NIST and will ask for help in the www-dom-ts mailing list to 
> convert
> the existing NIST DOM HTML test suite. Dimitris will help to unify the
> harnesses and needs to take of the documentation.
>
> For the documentation and the harnesses, we'll try do be ready before 
> the next
> DOM f2f meeting in the middle of November. A demo of the test suites 
> against
> some DOM implemetations is scheduled for the f2f.
> For DOM Level 2, we now have the Core test suite. The Events module 
> should be the
> next target (no schedule or allocated ressources yet), in order to get 
> ready
> for the DOM Level 3 Events module.
> We should advertize the DOM Level 1 test suite as soon as it is ready, 
> in order
> to get people's attention on the work and try to get ressources to work 
> on
> DOM Level 2 suites.
>
> Philippe
>
Received on Tuesday, 30 October 2001 04:08:52 GMT

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