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RE: Innovative use of DIAL for IT management

From: Smith, Kevin, VF-Group <Kevin.Smith@vodafone.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:55:02 +0200
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To: "Christian Timmerer \(ITEC\)" <christian.timmerer@itec.uni-klu.ac.at>, <www-di@w3.org>
Hi Christian,
 
I can help with the last two questions:
 
- Is a document DIAL compliant if it is XML compliant?
No, it's the other way around - a document is XML compliant if it is
DIAL compliant (or in the XML terminology, 'valid DIAL is well-formed
XML'). Note that DIAL is one of many dialects of XML. It specifies a set
of XML elements and attributes, and their structure and types, in the
DIAL specification.
 
- it is required to have a Java program for each proprietary format of
each device
You would need a way of parsing each data format, each of which would
need to be represented in Java (either as a condition, method, class or
package)
 
For the other questions it's best to ask Mr Morris at
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-dial/
<http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-dial/> 
 
Hope that helps,
Kevin


________________________________

	From: Christian Timmerer (ITEC)
[mailto:christian.timmerer@itec.uni-klu.ac.at] 
	Sent: 18 October 2006 15:29
	To: Rhys.Lewis@volantis.com; Smith, Kevin, VF-Group;
www-di@w3.org
	Cc: christian.timmerer@itec.uni-klu.ac.at
	Subject: RE: Innovative use of DIAL for IT management
	
	

	 

	Dear Rhys,

	  thanks for your reply and clarification. However, I'm sure
that members of the DIWG read this article and could probably share
their view on this thread.

	 

	Thanks.

	Best regards,

	 -Christian

	 

	:--

	:- Dipl.-Ing. Dr. Christian Timmerer

	:- Department of Information Technology (ITEC)

	:- Klagenfurt University, Austria

	:- http://research.timmerer.com

	:----------------------------------------------------------

	 

	>> Visit the IT Campus Carinthia

	>> http://www.it-campus.at

	 

	From: www-di-request@w3.org [mailto:www-di-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Rhys Lewis
	Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:17 PM
	To: Christian Timmerer (ITEC); Smith, Kevin, VF-Group;
www-di@w3.org
	Subject: RE: Innovative use of DIAL for IT management

	 

	Hi Christian, 

	 

	Kevin didn't actually write the article, he merely pointed us to
it. I think you probably need to ask Stephen B. Morris, the author.
Unfortunately, Stephen is not a member of DIWG, so can't be reached via
this mailing list.

	 

	Best wishes

	Rhys Lewis, chair DIWG

	 

________________________________

	From: www-di-request@w3.org [mailto:www-di-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Christian Timmerer (ITEC)
	Sent: 17 October 2006 10:54
	To: 'Smith, Kevin, VF-Group'; www-di@w3.org
	Cc: christian.timmerer@itec.uni-klu.ac.at
	Subject: RE: Innovative use of DIAL for IT management

	 

	 

	Dear Kevin,

	   thanks for this article which is very interesting. The
article describes how information (in a proprietary format like
key-value pairs or comma-separated values) from different devices is
transformed into XML format using a Java program(s). The claim is - as I
understood it - that this XML document is compliant to DIAL.

	 

	I have some questions/comments:

	-     How is interoperability provided concerning the terms used
within the adapter? For example, "Device" may have a different meaning
for the network devices than for digital camera or projector.

	-     Is a document compliant to DIAL if it is XML format?

	-     Following this approach, it is required to have a Java
program for each proprietary format of each device, right or have I
missed something?

	 

	To be honest, I'm missing the last step, i.e., between the
"Adapter" and the "Web browser on the PC".

	 

	Thank you.

	Best regards,

	 -Christian

	 

	:--

	:- Dipl.-Ing. Dr. Christian Timmerer

	:- Department of Information Technology (ITEC)

	:- Klagenfurt University, Austria

	:- http://research.timmerer.com

	:----------------------------------------------------------

	 

	>> Visit the IT Campus Carinthia

	>> http://www.it-campus.at

	 

	From: www-di-request@w3.org [mailto:www-di-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Smith, Kevin, VF-Group
	Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 2:54 PM
	To: www-di@w3.org
	Subject: Innovative use of DIAL for IT management

	 

	          Stephen B Morris has posted an innovative use for DIAL
at  IBM developerworks:
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-dial/

		He posits  "DIAL provides what might become a standard
data platform for IT management.", which is a very exciting, if
unexpected, application!

		 

		Cheers

		Kevin

		 

		 
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