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RE: [bidi] Re: Web page layouts in different cultures - question from DIWG

From: Donna Vignes <vignesdd@ddvdesigns.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 18:14:03 -0400
To: <www-international@w3.org>
Cc: <www-di@w3.org>, <bidi@unicode.org>
Message-ID: <008a01c5bd67$72d526a0$8814d218@office>

Is it not more than just the cultural orientation (right or left) that is
most relevant, but rather the display attributes?

Scrolling in either direction is cumbersome, in particular on mobile
devices. Perhaps investigation and discussion on page navigation within the
parameter of limited screen real estate should precede specific
accommodations for cultural orientation and language translation.  Mobile
devices present an opportunity to revise our thinking to reconsider
traditional navigation, means of access and presentation of content.  

Text and traditional navigation does not always provide an appropriate means
to present information. Users could benefit from alternative presentations
in many cases such as verbal prompts (think automated call centers) and
universal image maps (think public signage) .

Regards,
Donna Vignes

-----Original Message-----
From: www-di-request@w3.org [mailto:www-di-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Paul
Nelson (ATC)
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 4:50 PM
To: Jony Rosenne; Rotan Hanrahan; www-international@w3.org
Cc: www-di@w3.org; bidi@unicode.org
Subject: RE: [bidi] Re: Web page layouts in different cultures - question
from DIWG



You might also want to consider scripts like Tibetan that require a minimal
font size of 16 points to be readable.

Paul 

-----Original Message-----
From: bidi-bounce@unicode.org [mailto:bidi-bounce@unicode.org] On Behalf Of
Jony Rosenne
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:49 PM
To: 'Rotan Hanrahan'; www-international@w3.org
Cc: www-di@w3.org; bidi@unicode.org
Subject: [bidi] Re: Web page layouts in different cultures - question from
DIWG

Please consider right to left cultures.

Jony

> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-international-request@w3.org
> [mailto:www-international-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Rotan Hanrahan
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 12:49 PM
> To: www-international@w3.org
> Cc: www-di@w3.org
> Subject: Web page layouts in different cultures - question from DIWG
> 
> 
> 
> At a recent meeting of the Device Independence Working Group
> (W3C-DIWG) we discussed the issue of page layouts, and how to
> represent/process them when adapting content for different devices. 
> Our perception of page layouts is based mostly on our Western 
> experience of such pages, as such people are in the majority in our 
> group. Typically: logo and ads on the top, navigation down the left, 
> copyright at the bottom, scrolling the page is vertical etc...
> 
> However, we were concerned that such layouts may not be representative

> of the non-Western world. I am seeking references to information about

> this topic. If it turns out that the Western ideas of page layouts are

> broadly compatible with the ideas of page layout around the world,
> then there is no issue for us to worry about.
> 
> (For immediate response from DI to any relevant ideas on this issue,
> please email the www-di public mailing list.)
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> ---Rotan Hanrahan (member DI, chair DD, ACRep MobileAware)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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