RE: Fwd: ISSUE-117: In Widget P&C Spec, need to clarify in the spec that dir attribute does not apply to attributes that are IRIs, Numeric, Keywords, etc. The dir attribute only affects human readable strings.

Hi Art,

Thanks for the reminder. We will follow up shortly.

Addison

Addison Phillips
Globalization Architect (Lab126)
Chair (W3C I18N, IETF IRI WGs)

Internationalization is not a feature.
It is an architecture.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arthur Barstow [mailto:art.barstow@nokia.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:00 AM
> To: Richard Ishida; Phillips, Addison
> Cc: Marcos Caceres; 'www-archive'
> Subject: Fwd: Fwd: ISSUE-117: In Widget P&C Spec, need to clarify
> in the spec that dir attribute does not apply to attributes that
> are IRIs, Numeric, Keywords, etc. The dir attribute only affects
> human readable strings.
> 
> Richard, Addison - we would greatly appreciate it if the I18N WG
> would
> please follow-up Marcos' email below. When you do, please include
> the
> public-webapps mail list.
> 
> -Thanks, Art Barstow
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject:  Fwd: ISSUE-117: In Widget P&C Spec, need to clarify in
> the
> spec that dir attribute does not apply to attributes that are IRIs,
> Numeric, Keywords, etc. The dir attribute only affects human
> readable
> strings.
> Date:  Fri, 2 Jul 2010 12:16:33 +0200
> From:  ext Marcos Caceres <marcosc@opera.com>
> Reply-To:  marcosc@opera.com <marcosc@opera.com>
> To:  public-i18n-core@w3.org <public-i18n-core@w3.org>
> CC:  public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>
> 
> 
> 
> Hi members of  the i18n WG,
> 
> During implementation, Opera found that I had made a mistake with
> the
> way I has specified how the dir attribute is applied (I had applied
> it
> to all attributes, and then left it up to the user agent to display
> the attribute values properly). The problem was that what I had
> specified introduced significant overhead because it meant that
> directional hints were being derived even for attributes where it
> made
> no sense (e.g., for URIs).
> 
> Below is my proposed solution to this issue. If you could find the
> time to comment, that would be great. The latest editors draft
> incorporates the proposed solution below:
> 
> http://http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/

> 
> Kind regards,
> Marcos
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Marcos Caceres<marcosc@opera.com>
> Date: Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 6:41 PM
> Subject: Re: ISSUE-117: In Widget P&C Spec, need to clarify in the
> spec that dir attribute does not apply to attributes that are IRIs,
> Numeric, Keywords, etc. The dir attribute only affects human
> readable
> strings.
> To: Web Applications Working Group WG<public-webapps@w3.org>
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Web Applications Working Group
> Issue
> Tracker<sysbot+tracker@w3.org>  wrote:
> >
> >  ISSUE-117: In Widget P&C Spec, need to clarify in the spec that
> dir attribute does not apply to attributes that are IRIs, Numeric,
> Keywords, etc. The dir attribute only affects human readable
> strings.
> >
> >  http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/117

> >
> 
> Proposed solution:
> 
> I've defined a "Displayable-string attribute: An attribute whose
> primary purpose is to convey human readable information, such as
> the
> name element's short attribute and the widget element's version
> attribute."
> 
> As just stated, the widget element's version attribute becomes a
> "displayable-string attribute". So does the short attribute of the
> name element.
> 
> The author's email attribute is now treated as a keyword attribute
> (hence, dir is not applied to it). I know this is not ideal, but
> it's
> a cheap solution and saves having to define yet another type of
> attribute.
> 
> The name and value of the param attributes are now defined as
> keyword
> attributes (hence, dir is not applied to them).
> 
> The dir attribute is now defined as "A keyword attribute used to
> specify the directionality in which human-readable text is to be
> represented by a user agent (e.g., the text content of the name
> element, the description element, and the license element). The
> directionality set by the dir attribute applies to the text content
> and any displayable string attributes of the element where it is
> used,
> and to child elements in its content unless overridden with another
> instance of dir."
> 
> The "Rule for Getting a Single Attribute Value" now only returns a
> localized string "if and only if the attribute is a displayable-
> string
> attribute". Hence, all attributes are processed as strings and dir
> has
> no effect on them.
> 
> The "Rule for Getting a List of Keywords From an Attribute" no
> longer
> returns a localized string (as directionality does not apply to
> this
> kind of attribute).
> 
> --
> Marcos Caceres
> Opera Software ASA, http://www.opera.com/

> http://datadriven.com.au

>

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