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Re: minutes -> wiki magic?

From: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:29:01 -0500
To: Lee Feigenbaum <lee@thefigtrees.net>
cc: eric@w3.org, www-archive@w3.org
Message-ID: <28144.1236097741@ubehebe>

I've got the copy-to-wiki 90% automated.

I ran it to produce

   http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Chatlog_2009-03-03

and then made a "Present:" line by hand, based on what Zakim said.

Several names still don't match; I'd imagine Participants2 is missing
some folks.   Let me know how it goes.

      -- Sandro

> Sandro Hawke wrote:
> > [cc'd www-archive, in case others get interested]
> 
> Great.
> 
> > [You write about perhaps using the scribe tools OWL-WG is using]
> > 
> > Sure, I'd be happy to have you guys as the second users.  (Eric just
> > grabbed me in the hall to talk about it.)
> > 
> > Is your wiki up and running?   
> 
> Yes, it's at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/ though it's still sparse.
> 
> > Where in web space do you want minutes to appear?
>  >
>  > For OWL, the chatlogs, which start as IRC logs and are then cleaned up
>  > are named like:
>  >
>  >     http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Chatlog_2009-02-23
>  >
>  > and the formatted minutes are named like this:
>  >
>  >     http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/meeting/2009-02-23
> 
> We're pretty much duplicating the Web-space structure that OWL WG is 
> using, so I'd imagine chat logs at:
> 
> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Chatlog_%yyyy-%mm-%dd
> 
> with formatted minutes at:
> 
> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/%yyyy-%mm-%dd
> 
> I was a bit confused by 
> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Minutes_Review_Conventions which 
> suggests that the minutes are on the wiki and editable by any WG member 
> when, in fact, that's not the case?
> 
> > You'll also need a wiki page like:
> > 
> >     http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Participants2
> > 
> > which doesn't exactly match the other databases of participants because:
> >       - it needs to list all the irc names used for people which
> >         can not be derived by the algorithm
> >       - it needs to list everyone who has attended any meeting,
> >         including guests and part-participants
> 
> OK, I have an initial stab at this at:
> 
> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Participants2
> 
> > (One of the current bugs in the system is around the handling of the
> > participant list.  The list really needs to have a transaction-log
> > style, so that we can tell who the participants (really "attendees")
> > were at any given point in time.  If that list changes later, then a
> > name might BECOME ambiguous after-the-fact, which would make old minutes
> > harder to work with.  So, for now you can use the Participants2 style,
> > and expect at some point we'll have to upgrade this to a transaction-log
> > style.)
> 
> OK.
> 
> Out first meeting's logs were at
> 
> http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-sparql-irc.txt
> http://www.w3.org/2009/02/24-sparql-minutes.html
> 
> What next? :)
> 
> Lee
> 
> > BTW, the script has a clear object model of MeetingEvents which could be
> > dumped in RDF/XML easily.  I was going to dump them all into virtuoso at
> > one point, but never quite got there.  Of course I'm not sure it would
> > be socially good to have it easy to datamine the meeting records.
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