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Re: vCard RDF merge....

From: Martin Hepp (UniBW) <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:53:31 +0200
Message-ID: <4A6816FB.7030906@ebusiness-unibw.org>
To: Renato Iannella <renato@nicta.com.au>
CC: Toby Inkster <tai@g5n.co.uk>, Harry Halpin <hhalpin@ibiblio.org>, Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>, Brian Suda <brian.suda@gmail.com>, www-archive@w3.org, Peter Mika <pmika@yahoo-inc.com>
I think this is more of a question for norman and harry.
I am inclined to define / keep subproperties of tel for homeTel, 
mobileTel etc.
The current yahoo pattern attaches phone numbers directly to the 
resource (without an additional node), see the example below.

also note that yahoo suggests using tel as a datatype property with the 
pattern

           <span property="vcard:tel">+49-89-6004-4217</span>

while in th current 2006 ontology,  vcard:tel is defined as an object 
property, so it should IMO be:

           <span rel="vcard:tel" href="tel:+1-919-555-7878"/>

peter mika had quite some arguments for making phone number rather plain 
strings than resources according to the respective rfc.

peter - would you share those publicly, please?

here is a pattern following the current yahoo recommendation:

<http://www.heppnetz.de/searchmonkey/company.html#business> a 
gr:BusinessEntity, commerce:Business;
   rdfs:label "Hepp Space Ventures Inc."@en ;
   rdfs:seeAlso <http://www.heppnetz.de/>;
   vcard:adr <http://www.heppnetz.de/searchmonkey/company.html#address> ;
   vcard:fn "Hepp Space Ventures Inc."@en ;
   vcard:geo
       [ vcard:latitude "48.0802626"^^xsd:float ;
         vcard:longitude "11.6407428"^^xsd:float
       ] ;
   vcard:tel "+49-89-6004-0"^^xsd:string ;
   vcard:url <http://www.heppnetz.de/> ;
   foaf:depiction <http://www.heppnetz.de/searchmonkey/logo.png> .


<http://www.heppnetz.de/searchmonkey/company.html#address> a vcard:Address ;
   vcard:country-name "Germany"@en ;
   vcard:locality "Neubiberg"@en ;
   vcard:postal-code "85577"^^xsd:string ;
   vcard:region "Bavaria"@en ;
   vcard:street-address "1234 Hepp Road"@en .


martin



Renato Iannella wrote:
> Hi all......I want to complete the vCard/RDF update soon...
>
> So the question remains....are we happy to use the rdf:value+type 
> model (which is what the 2001 note uses)?
>
> If so, does this mean that we remove the homeTel Property (etc) from 
> the ontology?
>
> Renato
>
> On 30 Jun 2009, at 19:17, Toby Inkster wrote:
>
>> Instead of:
>>
>>     _:me a v:VCard ;
>>          v:fn "Alice Smith" ;
>>          v:workTel <tel:+44-7700-900123> ;
>>          v:mobileTel <tel:+44-7700-900123> .
>>
>> It uses:
>>
>>     _:me a v:VCard ;
>>         v:fn "Alice Smith" ;
>>         v:tel [
>>             a vx:Tel ;
>>             rdf:value <tel:+44-7700-900123> ;
>>             vx:usage "work" , "mobile"
>>         ] .
>>
>> My primary motivation was to be able to represent the data in the hCard
>> microformat in a way more closely related to the type+value structure of
>> hCard communications devices.
>>
>> It's not perfect (it breaks the "range" of the 2006 v:tel, v:email and
>> v:label properties; and vx:usage should probably take a non-literal
>> value) but perhaps some of the ideas there could be incorporated into
>> the merged RDF vCard. In particular it should address all of the points
>> above.
>
> Cheers...  Renato Iannella
> NICTA
>
>

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