- From: Bijan Parsia <bparsia@cs.man.ac.uk>
- Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:02:59 +0000
- To: www-archive@w3.org
Doug Scheper wrote in <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www- archive/2009Feb/0119.html> """It's a shame that the email list for that particular spec (sXBL) is Member-confidential, because it stops the general public from being able to review the discussions and make a judgment for themselves whether the straw-poll that broke the camel's back was as dramatic as you represent. ... In particular, you may be overstating how closely you represented the browser vendors. (For the benefit of those who have Member access, I refer to the email that leads me to that conclusion [1]; for those that don't have Member access, I apologize for including the link, and for my circumspect assertion.) [1] (Member-confidential) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-binding-tf/2005JulSep/ 0075.html""" Fortunately, I have member access and was able to go back :) I don't think that link is, in context, clear support for your qualms. It is a response to: (Member-confidential) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-binding-tf/2005JulSep/ 0062.html In which there may have been some overstating, but in other email Ian seems to fairly consistently refer to "Opera and Mozilla". So this could have been a simple miscommunication. Also, if you consider: (Member-confidential) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-binding-tf/2004AprJun/ 0483.html Then Ian's picture has some more support. I can say, personally, that in groups I've been in, I've often felt stuck in the "I must concede" role and "compromise means I give stuff up with nothing in return". Indeed, I've often felt that other people won't even *try* to accommodate my view (e.g., I often find myself in charter fights initiated by other people). When I do concede something major, for the sake of progress, mind, that never seems to benefit me. Frankly, I hate that ;) It doesn't seem very healthy for a group, either. Now, I may be wrong in my assessment of my situation, but there you go. I have no assessment of the sXBL case other than I don't find your pointer compelling in context. Cheers, Bijan. P.S. Sorry for all the member confidential links and obliqueness...but if you are going to raise this stuff publicly, then I don't know what else to do. It doesn't seem to me that the W3C has an Audit Board which tries to analyze failures and draw lessons from them. That could be a very helpful thing.
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