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Re: conformance checker for HTML+ARIA?

From: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:00:34 +0100
Message-ID: <55687cf80809300600v2cbc338bi8792d074b2956265@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Michael(tm) Smith" <mike@w3.org>
Cc: "Chris Wilson" <Chris.Wilson@microsoft.com>, "Dan Connolly" <connolly@w3.org>, www-archive <www-archive@w3.org>, "Al Gilman" <Alfred.S.Gilman@ieee.org>, "W3C WAI-XTECH" <wai-xtech@w3.org>, www-validator@w3.org

Hi Mike,
The idea in regards to the HTML WG was brought about by david dorwards
suggestion that it is something that the WG charter covers.

I certainly understand if this is not something that the HTML WG to be
actively involved in , but it is good to get your feedback so if there
is any development, its result does not upset any applecarts within
the HTML WG.

I agree that this will have to be driven by those that have a direct
interest in providing it.

> http://hsivonen.iki.fi/aria-html5-bis/ doc as a starting point
> among whomever it is that you want to try to get agreement from,
> modify it to match whatever consensus emerges, and produce a DTD
> (if that's what you really think you need) based on that.

To be honest i don't know what we need in terms of  a DTD or some
other mechanism, that would have to be worked out by people with a
better grasp of such things . But i do think that henris doc is a good
basis for defining a set of rules about how ARIA is to be used in host
languages.

regards
stevef

2008/9/30 Michael(tm) Smith <mike@w3.org>:
> Hi Steven,
>
>> @2008-09-30 12:25 +0100:
>> >"It also flags issues based on a set of
>> > rules, defined by Henri, on what constitutes conformant HTML5+ARIA
>> > (for example role="document" is not allowed)" and understand the
>> > concern you're expressing.
>>
>> I have already pinged henri on this particular issue. And as I said
>> previously, for the most part i think henri has put a good proposal
>> forward about ARIA integration in HTML5, one which has not been given
>> the consideration it deserves, as yet. One which serves as a good
>> basis for discussion on how ARIA integration into other host languages
>> could proceed.
>
> So it seems like one way forward would be to use Henri's
> http://hsivonen.iki.fi/aria-html5-bis/ doc as a starting point
> among whomever it is that you want to try to get agreement from,
> modify it to match whatever consensus emerges, and produce a DTD
> (if that's what you really think you need) based on that.
>
> But regardless of what you do, there's somebody that will need to
> do the actual work of modifying or writing the spec and producing
> the DTD. I would really doubt that you're going find any
> volunteers stepping forward who have not been involved in the
> discussions at all yet -- so it seems like it's probably going to
> need to be somebody from among the group of people who've already
> been discussing it.
>
> It's not clear to me what exactly the HTML WG can do to help speed
> this up in the near term (if the goal is to get it a DTD made and
> deployed at validator.w3.org as soon as possible).
>
>  --Mike
>
> --
> Michael(tm) Smith
> http://people.w3.org/mike/
>



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Steve Faulkner
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Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium

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