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Re: DOAP in Advoato?

From: Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:10:44 -0400
Message-Id: <656F209E-425C-4A3C-9F98-0D53A27A9D53@w3.org>
Cc: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>, www-archive@w3.org, Joe Presbrey <presbrey@mit.edu>, Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org>
To: "R. Steven Rainwater" <srainwater@ncc.com>


On 2007-10 -31, at 12:04, R. Steven Rainwater wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> Thanks for signing up on Advogato. The underlying software, an Apache
> module called mod_virgule, is making steady progress towards a lot of
> the goals you're interested in. You can see my ToDo list for the
> software here:
>
>  http://rainwaterreptileranch.org/steve/sw/mod_virgule/todo.html
>
> I've added your first request to my list.
>

Thank you!

> DOAP support is already planned and would allow projects to either be
> considered "native" Advogato projects, for which a DOAP file would be
> generated; or they could be considered "remote" projects and the  
> project
> information drawn from a DOAP file located elsewhere. DOAP will likely
> be the next major feature added, hopefully before the end of 2007.

Consider virtual beer and cheese  sent.

> OpenID support is planned as well, though I'm not sure whether we  
> should
> go for OpenID 2.0 support or 1.1 (or both).

I'm not familiar with the difference.  I guess I should be.

Actually, for us to use your  web of trust to let people log into our  
systems, you
would only need to store a remote openid which they optionally put in  
their advogato
profile.
Just like the RDF ID.
A copy, paste, paste of the code for the  external Home Page, maybe   :)

Your own implementation of OpenID login, an/or providing a free  
OpenID service for all users,
is orthogonal and icing on the cake.


> Things are moving slowly right now because I'm having to do 90% of the
> work myself. I haven't had a lot of spare time due to the  
> constraints of
> my day job. I haven't figured out a way to get paid for working on
> Advogato and mod_virgule yet. ;-)
>

Understand!

We are doing this stuff with jobs and classes and things intervening.

Sometimes the most exciting projects which have no explicit funding...

(Danc, ever thought of cloning Advogato for HTML WG membership?)

Tim

> -Steve
>
>
> On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 21:51, Tim Berners-Lee wrote:
>> Steve,
>>
>> I like Advogato!  Just got an account.
>> It seems to have checks in (almost) all the boxes!
>>
>> I'm trying to push the use of FOAF for trust, specifically connecting
>> FOAF to OpenID.
>>
>> http://esw.w3.org/topic/FoafOpenid
>>
>> Advogato is nice as it does both of them.
>>
>> My wishlist is:
>>
>> 1.  Allow people to give in their profile an RDF ID for themselves
>> ( or >1).  This acknowledges that Adv. is not the only network ... it
>> would allow me to connect to another site like it for example.
>> My.opera.com does this, for example .  If everyone does this we can
>> make a complete open social network.  You publish  owl:sameAs
>> linking the person in the site ti the person in the other site.
>>
>> 2. I love the foaf.  How about DOAP for projects? It is an ontology
>> like FOAF.
>> 	For example http://usefulinc.com/ns/doap#Project
>> 	Example file http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2005/ajar/ajaw/ 
>> data#Tabulator.rdf
>>
>> 	If you gave each project an RDF URI  like say
>>
>> 	http://www.advogato.org/proj/mod_virgule/doap#it
>>
>> (not the project home age or human-readable page, the RDF ID of the
>> thing itself)
>> then people and projects would be connected.  It'd be able to browse
>> around eth co-developer web in data space, make trust metrics like
>> "anyone who has worked with me on a project, to 3 hops" and so on.
>>
>>
>> KUTGW
>>
>> Tim BL
>>
>>
Received on Thursday, 1 November 2007 22:10:59 GMT

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