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RE: Modified soap12-part0.html

From: Martin Gudgin <mgudgin@microsoft.com>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 09:51:08 -0700
Message-ID: <7C083876C492EB4BAAF6B3AE0732970E0B7E744D@red-msg-08.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>
To: "Volker Wiechers" <volker.wiechers@sap.com>
Cc: "Yves Lafon" <ylafon@w3.org>, "Nilo Mitra \(EUS\)" <Nilo.Mitra@am1.ericsson.se>, "W3C Public Archive" <www-archive@w3.org>

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Volker Wiechers [mailto:volker.wiechers@sap.com] 
> Sent: 16 May 2003 17:38
> To: Martin Gudgin
> Cc: Yves Lafon; Nilo Mitra (EUS); W3C Public Archive
> Subject: Re: Modified soap12-part0.html
> 
> It is not a question that the document is legal html. But at 
> least one person was confused about the xml examples.

I think the confusion was caused by a misunderstanding of how UTF-8 works.
 
> Changing the iso-8859-1 chars to there encoded 
> representations ke Jgvan yvind -> &Aring;ke J&oacute;gvan 
> &Oslash;yvind will not change the document at all but might 
> stop confusing people that are not HTML, XML UTF9 etc. experts :)

But when people view the HTML they should just see ke Jgvan yvind... And that's what I see write now in my browser. Sounds more like a browser bug to me.

Gudge

> 
> Best regards,
>     Volker
> 
> Martin Gudgin wrote:
> 
> >OK, no change should be necessary then. But I'm not sure how 
> this helps Volker...
> >
> >Gudge
> >
> >  
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Yves Lafon [mailto:ylafon@w3.org]
> >>Sent: 15 May 2003 09:55
> >>To: Nilo Mitra (EUS)
> >>Cc: Martin Gudgin; Volker Wiechers; W3C Public Archive
> >>Subject: RE: Modified soap12-part0.html
> >>
> >>On Wed, 14 May 2003, Nilo Mitra (EUS) wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Thanks, Gudge. Without checking, I had mistakenly assumed that the 
> >>>editor I was using, W3C's Amaya, had inserted the
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>appropriate unicode
> >>    
> >>
> >>>character codes. It had not, using platform specific
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>support instead. 
> >>    
> >>
> >>>I also see what Volker's problem is/was.
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Well, the encoding of the document is iso-8859-1, which is 
> the default 
> >>for text/html. As "d8  ", "f3  " and "c5  "
> >>are valid characters, they don't need to be escaped.
> >>
> >>(here are the HTTP headers sent:
> >>Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 08:51:37 GMT
> >>Server: Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) PHP/4.2.3
> >>P3P: policyref="http://www.w3.org/2001/05/P3P/p3p.xml"
> >>Cache-Control: max-age=21600
> >>Expires: Thu, 15 May 2003 14:51:37 GMT
> >>Last-Modified: Tue, 06 May 2003 23:47:37 GMT
> >>ETag: "3eb84999"
> >>Accept-Ranges: bytes
> >>Content-Length: 169773
> >>Content-MD5: 1qlpWIoETJiLaY6BfRyQbw==
> >>Connection: close
> >>Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
> >>
> >>The conclusion is, the document is OK as-is, or should use 
> the proper
> >>iso-8859-1 encoding if the plain characters have to disappear.
> >>
> >> >
> >>    
> >>
> >>>I shall insert the character refs into all occurrences of
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>the name so that it renders the same whether the encoding chosen on 
> >>the browser is Western European or UTF-8.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>I think this should solve the "problem".
> >>>Thanks
> >>>Nilo
> >>>PS. Yves and/or Gudge: Are you going to create a new
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>directory for the latest editor's copy. Thanks.
> >>    
> >>
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: Martin Gudgin [mailto:mgudgin@microsoft.com]  > Sent: 
> >>>Wednesday, May 14, 2003 3:35 PM  > To: Volker Wiechers; Nilo Mitra
> >>>(EUS)  > Cc: Yves Lafon; W3C Public Archive  > Subject: Modified 
> >>>soap12-part0.html  >  >  > Volker,  >  > Can you load the
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>attached doc
> >>    
> >>
> >>>up in your browser? And let me know how  > example 4 
> looks? ( I put 
> >>>character refs in ). BTW this is  > just the doc  > in the 2/06/LC 
> >>>directory.
> >>> >
> >>> > Gudge
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>--
> >>Yves Lafon - W3C
> >>"Baroula que barouleras, au tiu toujou t'entourneras."
> >>
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> 
> 
> 
> 
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