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RE: Issue 250 resolution

From: Martin Gudgin <mgudgin@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:09:48 -0700
Message-ID: <92456F6B84D1324C943905BEEAE0278E026822E1@RED-MSG-10.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>
To: <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "Nilo Mitra" <EUSNILM@am1.ericsson.se>, "Henrik Frystyk Nielsen" <henrikn@microsoft.com>, "Marc Hadley" <marc.hadley@sun.com>, "Jean-Jacques Moreau" <moreau@crf.canon.fr>, "W3C Public Archive" <www-archive@w3.org>

Noah,

In general I don't consider the text in issue resolutions to be
prescriptive. We long ago decided that editors had the latitude to
incorporate as they saw fit.

With respect to 250 specifically, I can't remember exactly what my
thought process was, but it was probably along the lines of 'which have
special significance in a SOAP message' is redundant on the grounds that
if they weren't special we wouldn't put them in the spec. 

Or it's entirely possible I just wasn't paying attention.

If you want to add the text in then go ahead.

Gudge	

P.S. Adding the archive.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com [mailto:noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com] 
> Sent: 04 September 2002 22:31
> To: Martin Gudgin
> Cc: Nilo Mitra; Henrik Frystyk Nielsen; Marc Hadley; Martin 
> Gudgin; Jean-Jacques Moreau
> Subject: Re: Issue 250 resolution
> 
> 
> Gudge:  I'm finally digging out from all the backed up review 
> work from 
> the summer and when I was sick, and I don't >think< what's in 
> the spec now 
> matches the resolution.  The resolution [1] says:
> 
> The XML Protocol (XMLP) WG has decided at the f2f to close 
> issue 250 [1], which you originated, with the following 
> resolution. The text in Part 1, section 2.2
> 
> <original text>
> This specification defines the following SOAP roles:
> .......
> With the exception of the three SOAP roles defined above..... 
> <original text>
> 
> will be changed to
> 
> <new text>
> This specification defines the following role names which 
> have special significance in a SOAP message (see ref. to 
> 6.2): ...... With the exception of the three SOAP role names 
> defined above..... <new text>
> 
> But in fact the current text of the spec says:
> 
> "This specification defines the following SOAP role names (see 2.6 
> Processing SOAP Messages):"
> 
> Is there a reason not to stick to the text as approved in the 
> resolution? 
> The original concern in the issue is that we weren't really 
> "defining" 
> these roles (and I think there's also a literal interpretation of the 
> status quo text that these are the only roles allowed, though 
> it would 
> take a real pedant to infer that.)  Anyway, I like the 
> official resolution 
> better.  Any reason not to use it?   Sorry to take so long to 
> wade through 
> all these.
> 
> [1] 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xmlp-comments/2002Aug/0034.html
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Martin Gudgin" <mgudgin@microsoft.com>
> 08/14/2002 12:04 PM
> 
>  
>         To:     "Noah Mendelson" 
> <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>, "Jean-Jacques Moreau" 
> <moreau@crf.canon.fr>, "Marc Hadley" <marc.hadley@sun.com>, 
> "Nilo Mitra" 
> <EUSNILM@am1.ericsson.se>, "Martin Gudgin" <mgudgin@microsoft.com>, 
> "Henrik Frystyk Nielsen" <henrikn@microsoft.com>
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        Issue 250 resolution
> 
> 
> I've checked in the resolution to Issue 250, but I'm not 
> entirely comfortable with it. Could someone read Section 
> 2.2[1], 2.3[2] and 2.6[3] and let me know whether it all 
> hangs together. I've only made changes to 2.2 but 2.6 is 
> referenced from 2.2 now and 2.3 seems related too.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Gudge
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/2/06/LC/soap12-part1.xml#soaproles
> [2] 
> http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/2/06/LC/soap12-part1.xml#targe
ttingblock
s
[3]
http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/2/06/LC/soap12-part1.xml#procsoapmsgs
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