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Re: Interactive Paper Project at UIUC

From: Julie Gibson <jgibson@vc.tafensw.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:18:07 -0400 (EDT)
To: www-annotation@w3.org
Message-Id: <3768224C.34D5CFA1@vc.tafensw.edu.au>
Hey, it's not that unreasonable that he didn't check first. We were well up on
things in annotations 3 or 4 years ago but found nothing that suited what we were
doing so went about doing it our way. We kind of got isolated and didn't keep
checking on the rest of the world. It's only because Jon contacted us that we've
been reminded.

It looks like the time is ripe for this use of the web to take off. This new
project is closer to the PageSeeder idea than the other annotation systems I've now
started to get familiar with. It is more simple minded (as is ours) and the
annotations are seen as part of the page rather than an external critique. There
are good reasons for both perceptions but they tend to lead to different

With all these new developments appearing it must be that we'll have a critical
mass of people that will allow some progress at least in defining a vocabulary
about annotations.


Julie Gibson
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Jon Garfunkel wrote:

> Jim Levin, an ed-psych professor at UIUC, has introduced a web-annotation
> project which got some media coverage [*] recently. Too bad neither he nor
> the media appears to have recognized existing & historical
> research/projects in this field.
> I'd suppose that the authors of IPP should have looked at the
> www-annotations page at w3.org (not that they would have been much
> impressed by the dead link to Wayne Gramlich's site). Or the writer at
> Wired magazine should have contacted W3.
> Maybe W3 would have had nothing to say, as annotations are officially not
> active projects. But we do have people discussing it, to go with a web page
> that should have links to active/historical outside projects. Also we can
> try to nail down to definitions so that new software can be easily classified.
> But we should really need to put the work in on updating the annotations
> web page. (http://www.w3.org/Collaboration/ -- though there is much
> overlap, do these two areas still go together?)
> I may invite Professor Levin about the list; should somebody (with more of
> an official role) contact Wired News?
> [*]
> http://lrsdb.ed.uiuc.edu:591/ipp/default.htm
> http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/20179.html
> http://listserv.educause.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind9906&L=edupage&D=1&H=1&O=D
> &F=&S=&P=627
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