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Re: the HCI of the amaya editor is the WORST i have ever encountered :/

From: Irene Vatton <irene.vatton@inrialpes.fr>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:13:51 +0200
To: Jon Bendtsen <bendtsen@diku.dk>
Cc: www-amaya@w3.org
Message-Id: <20030703171351.77bf7338.irene.vatton@inrialpes.fr>

On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:19:20 -0400 (EDT)
Jon Bendtsen <bendtsen@diku.dk> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> And i'm no stranger to more or less weird programs, as i've used linux
> as my desktop for years, but still, noone comes near amaya.
> 
> I'm currently stuck in the WYSIWYG? view, where i've made a table,
> and now i would like to write things below the table, but for some
> reason it is not possible to get down under the table.
> I cant use the mouse, i cant use the arrow-keys. Your manual says
> 
> "Insertion pointsWhen creating new elements, it is important to select an insertion point, not some text nor a single character: if the current selection is not empty, Amaya tries to transform the selected part into the element type chosen"
> 
> Fint, but how do i get to the RIGHT insertion point?

I know the structure editing is not intuitive.
In this particular case the documentation on tables says also that you have to select the whole table by using
F2 on Windows a(nd Esc on Linux) then to hit Enter to generate a paragraph after the table.

> The file i'm trying to do is not advanced
> 
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
>        "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
> <head>
>   <title>Pony.dk - Forsiden</title>
> </head>
> 
> <body xml:lang="da" lang="da" title="Pony.dk - Forsiden">
> 
> <table border="1" cellspacing="10">
>   <caption></caption>
>   <tbody>
>     <tr>
>       <td><a href="index.html">forsiden</a></td>
>       <td><a href="historik.html">historik</a></td>
>       <td><a href="pics/billeder.html">billeder</a></td>
>       <td><a href="chat.html">chat</a></td>
>     </tr>
>   </tbody>
> </table>
> </body>
> </html>
> 
> 
> i also tried the structured view. The only way i was able to move to 
> the wanted place below the table, aka between </table> and </body>
> was to view the source, and there write something so i could move
> down there. Its however, not intuitive that one cant just move with
> the mouse or arrowkeys in the WYSIWYG window, or even in the structured
> view. Should this part be in the help, well, maybe the help can be better,
> as i spent about 30 minutes resolving this problem, including writting
> this small email to you.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> JonB
> 
> 
> 


     Irene.
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