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Re: Is it possible to use one SVG to contain other SVGs, in a way that also enables the user to copy the contained SVGs and paste them into another document, for instance into ms Word?

From: Jonathan Chetwynd <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>
Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 22:30:57 +0100
Cc: www-amaya@w3.org
To: Paul Cheyrou-lagreze <Paul.Cheyrou-Lagreze@inrialpes.fr>
Message-Id: <59D36C52-8653-11D7-9405-0003939B5AD0@btinternet.com>

Paul,

your example does not display in amaya7.1 on max os x10.2, or amaya7.2 
on msXP for me, the colorbox looks great when linked too directly.
Please can you post me another? assuming it works for you, can you 
confirm that the colorbox only is copied as a single entity and not a 
part of it, or the <svg> containing <use> . These are my main concerns, 
one reason not to use amaya, is that print preview is limited, but this 
is perhaps not critical, only a consideration.

Jonathan

On Wednesday, May 14, 2003, at 12:30 PM, Paul Cheyrou-lagreze wrote:

> On Wed, 14 May 2003 12:15:59 +0100
> Jonathan Chetwynd <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> I really appreciate your efforts to understand this issue, as you'll
>> realise I am still confused, it would be really helpful if you had a
>> link to a <use> example, I've put one that uses <image> here
>> http://www.peepo.com/svg/image.svg, it does not seem to display except
>> in amaya.....
>
> Ithink latest adobe svg player display embeded SVG (but doesn't 
> animate them)...
> Here's a use example http://tuan.kuranes.free.fr/svg/New.svg
>
>> 1	 does SVG prevent this, assuming not, does any implementation such 
>> as
>> amaya allow this?
>
> I think the use mechanism is what SVG provide for those needs.
> I only know Amaya allowing <use> with a external document contaning 
> the SVG.
>
>> 2	is there another application/word processor that lets one paste 
>> them.
>> Jim Ley believes this is possible with word*
>
> The problem is that the clipboard isn't really aware of what sort of 
> infomation it's carrying,
>  so if Amaya fill the clipboard with SVG (which is basically text) 
> other will understand it as text...
> It only can if in your Word processeor there's a "paste as SVG"
>
> I've hear of some work on SVG within openoffice and abiword... maybe 
> it's possible to import SVG
> (using a file import mechanism). you should check them.
>
>> If you visit peepo.com. you'll immediately see we use lots of SVG
>> created images as links, unfortunately they are currently saved as 
>> gifs
>> or jpgs. Teaching staff need to be able to easily copy these and paste
>> them in another document.
>
> Using Amaya and SVG images, you sould be able to Copy/Paste selecting 
> the SVG then using CTRL+C in the view browsing peepo.com
> and then CTRL+V in the view you're currently editing. (It even work 
> now, with the gifs.)
> But you must use Amaya to edit documents instead of Word. But why not ?
>
>> I Naturally this could take months or years to achieve, if it isn't
>> possible already.
>
> We cannot change the clipboard mechanism in order to make "he paste as 
> SVG" possible in word processors... you should check and contact you 
> word processors makers.
>
> -PAul
>
Received on Wednesday, 14 May 2003 17:27:46 UTC

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