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Re: Layers

From: W. Jeffrey Rankin <jrankin@oneil.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:54:12 -0500 (EST)
To: Lee Roberts <leeroberts@roserockdesign.com>
cc: www-amaya@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.50.0212102202120.1465-100000@ultra>

I think you may be talking about different implementations of layers. I
believe Netscape did have a proprietary implementation of layers that has
been rendered obsolete by content positioning.

Amaya is open source software, so if there's functionality you desire
that's not currently available, get involved. I have the impression that,
currently, the development team is rather small, so they no doubt have to
carefully pick what to implement in Amaya. I think they've done an
outstanding job actually: What other tools allow you to create documents
containing SVG, HTML, etc. that is standards compliant?

Alas, in my opinion Macromedia hasn't done anything beyond furthering
their proprietary vision of the web. They're hardly interested in open
standards and compliance thereof.

W. Jeffrey Rankin

On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Lee Roberts wrote:

> I might be a little dense, but layers have never been a proprietary part
> of Netscape.  Layers have always been supported by CSS  compliant
> browsers.  I, too, had questions about why Amaya doesn't support the CSS
> attribute of position.  Why doesn't Amaya support the standards?
> I would have thought that Amaya, being a tool created by the W3C, would
> be one that incorporated the standards.  Based upon what I see in the
> presentations and the design layouts of pages created with Amaya someone
> apparently thought that the way to go was to create a free version of
> FrontPage.  I hope this tool gets much better and starts supporting the
> standards we work so hard at developing.
> If we can't support the standards we develop, may I suggest we dispose
> of this tool and cease saying it is the best thing out there.  There are
> a lot of people that devote a lot of their time to making the Internet
> better.  Certainly, the Amaya tool should be as good in handling the
> standards as a person that writes code by hand.  If Macromedia can do it
> Amaya should be able to do it.
> Message-ID: <001f01c08fd4$32dc21e0$5d509318@ne.mediaone.net>
> From: "Patrick T. Rourke" <
> <mailto:ptrourke@mediaone.net?Subject=Re:%20Layers&In-Reply-To=%3C001f01
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> To: "Tyler Ross" <
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> dc21e0$5d509318@ne.mediaone.net%3E> zoinky@zoinky.2y.net>, <
> <mailto:www-amaya@w3.org?Subject=Re:%20Layers&In-Reply-To=%3C001f01c08fd
> 4$32dc21e0$5d509318@ne.mediaone.net%3E&References=%3C001f01c08fd4$32dc21
> e0$5d509318@ne.mediaone.net%3E> www-amaya@w3.org>
> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:31:45 -0500
> Subject: Re: Layers
> Layers are a proprietary feature introduced by Netscape.  The new
> version of
> Netscape does not even support them, let alone Amaya.
> Sincerely,
> Lee Roberts
> President/CEO
> 405-321-6372
> Rose Rock Design, Inc.
>  <http://www.roserockdesign.com> http://www.roserockdesign.com
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