Re: Bug report and ideas

> VERSION : 4.3.1
> ============
>
> Idea : Could it be possible to make template pages ? When making an XHTML
page,
> I save it as a template and decide by special tag the content
> that will be inserted later.  When loading a template, It asks me to set
each
> content and the page is built automatically.
>
>
> Irene VATTON a écrit :
>
> > > 1°) About the main ToolBar :
> > >
> > > Why the E, S, C buttons behaves as Toggle Button but not H1, H2, H3
> > > and Lists ? I mean, If I active the H1 on a text part, I can't disable
> > > it easily.
> >
> > Toggles E, S, C let you set/delete the corresponding markup. For
headings
> > and lists, usually you don't remove the markup but you replace it by
> > another markup: H1 becomes H2 or P. If you select a H1 and click on H2
you
> > do exactly that. As you can see, only inline tags (see Style/Information
> > type and Style/Character element) are toggles.
>
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>
> I agree with you that Bold, Italic... are for physical presentation H1,
H2...
> are for
> structural information. However, XHTML must be considered as a physical
> presentation
> of a documentation, meaning I 'draw' my web page and not I structure my
web
> page.
> Such method like this, is for beginner like me easier, I don't know if H1
is
> more pertinent and
> should be replaced by a simple P or BR with a specific font.
>
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>
> >
> >
> > > It is possible to have a contextual toolbar depending on the object
> > > used ?
> >
> > It's possible but it is a bit complex.
> >
>
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>
> A better idea shoud be to have a list of available properties on the
selected
> object.
> It could be available in tne main toolbar or in a standalone window. I
think
> this
> independant window could help people to waste his time to search the good
menu
> and
> the good action.
>
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>
> >
> > > 2°) About simple use :
> > >
> > > Adding a gif images shows an annoying comment : "The Alternate text is
> > > mandatory"
> >
> > Yes, it is.
>
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>
> Ok, but it seems that I can't change easily this properties value later
> (Meaning, I must
> go to the source).
>
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>
> >
> >
> > > There's a lot of bug in the table object :
> > >
> > > a°) Build an 10, 10 table. Go to the first cell and try to do several
> > > line.
>
> >
> > You inserted several paragraphs in a cell?
>
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>
> I try again, but the bug is not the same. I have built a new XHTML page. I
have
> inserted
> a 10x10 table it the beginning. When I insert a text on the first cell,
the
> table is not resized
> and the text is under the grid
>
> Idea : Could you have a TRACE MODE that could store each user action
??????
> ++++
> This is a system used by emacs for showing where's the bug otherwise, it's
not
> really practice
> to redo itn the proove is here...
>
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>
>
> >
> >
> > > b°) Build in the amaya introduction page a table of any size with a
> > > border > 2. Then insert another table with a border of size 1, the
> > > main table is resetted to a border of size 1.
> >
> > I tried that scenario on Unix and Windows platforms and it worked well.
> >
>
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>
> Sorry, I can't redo the error. Howeve I have met several other bugs :
>
> 1°) Build in the introduction page a table of 10x10, add a second table of
2x2
> inside the first cell (top left). You can't select other cells from the
main
> table in the
> first line.
> 2°) Now remove the second table. The table is not completed, a refresh
problem
> appears
> and the cell disappears.
>
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>
> >
> > > c°) Build a 5, 5 table. Add a text in the first column in the first
> > > row, then add a text in the second column in other line. We can't
> > > select the first column content !
> >
> > When you click in the document Amaya looks for the nearest element. If
the
> > cell of the first column in the second row is empty by default that
element
> > is located at the left border of its column and its size is 2 pixels
width.
> > When you click in the first large column, you have more chances to be
closer
> > to the second column cell than the first column cell.
> > You have to click on the left side of the column or to use arrow keys to
move
> > the current selection.
> >
>
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>
> ok
>
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>
>
> >
> > > d°) Sometime a *** Thot: Irrecoverable error *** crashes Amaya with
> > > tables.
> >
> > If you have a clear and repeatable scenario, that can help us to fix
bugs.
> >
>
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>
> Could you store a kind of stack trace ?
>
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>
>
> >
> > > 6°) Window
> > >
> > > Dialog box are not always straightforward. The first think, is that I
> > > can't kill it using the [x] Window icon. I don't understand the
> > > interest of the 'Clear' button.  What is the difference between
> > > 'Done' and 'Apply' ? Same thing if 'Done' is for 'Confirm' why such
> > > different name ?
> >
> > In some cases there is no [x] Window icon because it's not proposed by
> > the dialogue toolkit.
> > Attribute dialogues (there are other dialogues too) have a button Apply
> > that adds the attribute and its current value to the current selected
> > element. The dialogue don't disappear after an Apply for letting you
apply
> > the same attribute value to different elements (this was a request of
> > Amaya users). In these cases there is a button Done that closes the
> > dialogue box (nothing else is done by the button Done).
> > The button Cancel closes the dialogue box, but can also undo what was
> > already prepared since the beginning of the operation.
> > Ex: when you create an image or a link, Amaya inserts the new element
and
> > asks you for the target image/link value. If you cancel, the dialogue,
the
> > inserted element image/link is removed.
> >
>
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>
> ok, I understand. However, why not adding a link only for a non empty
target
> defined ?
>
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>
>
> >
> > >
> > > For example : On the action Background image item, Clicking on the
> > > Confirm button will do nothing, It should close the dialog and do
> > > nothing without a Background.
> >
> > It does if there is a valid background image. But I agree there is a bug
> > here, because the dialogue should be closed.
> >
>
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>
> ok
>
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>
> >
> > > 7°) Navigation :
> > >
> > > Previous and Next doesn't work very well in Edition Mode.
> > >
> > > Ex : I'm creating a new page, When clicking the previous button <--
> > > it goes to the Amaya Introduction page (which is I don't understand
> > > why for edition). I can't go again to my new page.
> >
> > It's not a bug. I guess you created a new document, but you didn't save
> > it. Amaya considered that it was a mistake and didn't registered that
page
> > in the history. If you edited and saved the new document, it was be
> > registered.
> >
>
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>
> ok but a dialog box could be better for adverstising that the document was
not
> saved.
>
> + I notice, that amaya doesn't take into account the user working
directory as a
> default path
> when saving a document.
>
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>
>
> >
> > Regards
> > --
> >      Irene.
>
> (Bravo pour la qualité de votre travail !)
>
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Since this is a text base medium i think we should examin all aspects of
typography.
get this iron out. I kind of like microsofts make big, med, small fonts.
(save the i hate microsoft stuff!)

darrell bowman
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Received on Thursday, 22 March 2001 11:17:04 UTC