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Re: bug report: args to dynamic images

From: Paul Derbyshire <derbyshire16@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:33:31 EST
Message-ID: <20000128163331.17695.qmail@hotmail.com>
To: www-amaya@w3.org
>The scripts are okay with the ";".  Amaya also seems to intermittently
>remove comments!.  Its a pity as this seems to otherwise be a good HTML
>editor, its the first I've played with that I've not given up with after
>five minutes.

Same here -- it's the only one to keep my long term interest, but its bugs 
and general lack of polish make it unusable for serious HTML projects. I 
suppose that's what you get with a bleeding edge experimental program that's 
perpetually in beta...

Give me a big documentation task, and I'll probably generate the results in 
the form of PDF or DVI files using TeX...

However, I'm lurking here waiting for the bug reports, one day, to get down 
to a low roar... then I might install whatever version is current then and 
see how it drives... I think the problem is actually all the legacy 
spaghetti code with pointer tangles and type unsafety written in procedural 
languages -- a clean rewrite from the ground up in Java would probably 
destroy all of the problems and very much speed up development work.

Indeed, after reading _Weaving the Web_, I think what the Web needs most is 
a stable, robust, easy to use browser/editor combination, probably written 
in Java, and with a new navigational feature I dreamed up (well, more like 
got inspired by Natrificial Technologies' products) -- a view that shows a 
graph whose nodes represent Web pages, the central one being the currently 
open page, and whose edges represent href links -- excluding stylesheet 
links, embedded images, and embedded objects. The graph would show the 
immediate "neighbor" pages in a ring around the current page, and their 
neighbors in turn, and so forth hyperbolically, with a highlighted color for 
the current page and the nearby pages that had the same hostname and, if 
present, the same username (~someone) in the URL. This way you'd see the 
boundaries of the current site. The nodes would only be displayed to two, 
three, or four steps distance from the source; clicking nodes would 
transform the graph and change the associated browser window's address.

Ultimately an XML schema might be developed to allow Web page authors to 
control how this navigational method worked. It could allow, say, 
classification of links as parent/containment, sequential, or 
associative-jump, and allow links to have a word attached describing the 
relationship, which would appear by the link arrow in the navigation.

To get an idea of how such a thing would appear, I suggest downloading the 
"Brain" from www.thebrain.com and taking it for a test drive. The navigation 
interface in this file organizer software looks close to an ideal navigation 
interface for the Web. Natrificial has a (ick) software patent on the 
interface, but I expect that you guys don't believe in software "patents" 
and I doubt software patents are recognized in France, or wherever it is you 
guys operate, so they'd have no jurisdiction to sue. :-)

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