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Re: www.infoworld.com == code breaker

From: Irene VATTON <Irene.Vatton@inrialpes.fr>
Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 10:19:28 +0200
Message-Id: <200005040819.KAA05787@tahiti.inrialpes.fr>
To: "P. T. Rourke" <ptrourke@mediaone.net>
cc: "Pierre Fortin" <pfortin@SkyBest.com>, "Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng" <hgs@dmu.ac.uk>, www-amaya@w3.org
> I got 86 errors when I ran the Inforworld page through Tidy.
> 
> It has sometimes seemed to me that an ideal browser/editor would have a
> "tidying" feature that would re-render loaded invalid pages according to a
> best approximation of a valid page (with an alert in the status bar),
> flagging errors in an optional extra window or file, and allowing the reader
> to view the source of the existing page or of the resulting tidied page.
> But I expect that this is something the Amaya team doesn't have the time /
> personnel resources for (I guess it would have to run the loaded page
> through Tidy or some analog first and then parse it into a tree for Amaya to
> display and edit; my programming skills are definitely sub-par so I haven't
> looked at the source code), so I haven't mentioned it.


I guess that could be done outside the Amaya team by a student.
Amaya gets a temporary copy of documents before parsing them. Tidy could
launched on these temporary files. No well knowledge of the Amaya code is 
necessary
for doing that.


> P. T. Rourke
> 
> Pierre Fortin wrote:
> > Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 3 May 2000, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > directly accessing the first frame at
> http://www.infoworld.com/pageone.html
> > > > since Amaya only displays basic frame info unless "/pageone.html" is
> appended.
> > > > Once the page displays, it is obviously very different from what
> Netscape or
> > > > Mozilla present.
> > > The W3C validator considers this page to be seriously ill :-) :-
> > >
> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.infoworld.com%2Fpageone.h
> tml&outline=
> > Thanks for the pointer!
> > > The question arises how far the very small Amaya team can go to prevent
> > > pathalogical responses to pathalogical input.  Ideally it should not
> > > loop forever, but...
> > ...but, this raises another question:  should the validator just throw
> errors,
> > or should there be a "proposed/concept" option, or second validator which
> takes
> > rule-bending into account and helps evaluate future possibilities...?  I'd
> be
> > the last to propose a M$-like "embrace and extend" attitude; but standards
> don't
> > always stop when agreed upon.  Many evolve to new levels...  to wit: HTML
> > *4.0*...  But; by all means, flag M$ extensions as strict violations...
> :^)
> > >         Hugh
> > >         hgs@dmu.ac.uk
> > Pierre
> 
> 

-- 
     Irene.
Received on Thursday, 4 May 2000 04:23:04 UTC

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