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[Amaya] Re: css (borderline off-topic)

From: Michael Wildhack <wildhack@albatros.cnb.net>
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 21:40:55 -0400
To: <www-amaya@w3.org>
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Michael is not quite as far along as "Dix" but echoes the sentiment !
I learn lots from these exchanges - now I want to know where to find
"bradbury's  topstyle editor ..."
I, too, am trying to write pages for an audience with a wide variety of 
browsers - and like very much the idea of being able to use AMAYA
as a major tool to also keep the pages accessible for the visually 
impaired.   And maybe one of these days WE will be able to contribute 
s.t. that others will be able to learn from ( including our mistakes !)

Thanks, Irene & all - this is a great list !
Michael in Cochabamba        8^)>
On 3 Apr 2000, at 12:47, dix wrote:

Date forwarded: 	Mon, 3 Apr 2000 13:47:45 -0400 (EDT)
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From:           	"dix" <dix@sunflower.com>
To:             	<www-amaya@w3.org>
Date sent:      	Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:47:10 -0500
Subject:        	css (borderline off-topic), was RE: your bloatware
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> my addition:
> one very helpful resource i have used for style sheets is bradbury's
> topstyle editor (i'm not affiliated). in particular, i like the
> cross-browser check, and the built-in w3c validation option. you can set it
> to perform for various standards (such as which css definition you want to
> use or what browser compatibility you want) and run a check to see what will
> and won't work in the various browsers. it's not really that hard to do css
> that degrades gracefully under those conditions. you can get a free (nag
> ware) demo that is quite functional, or register for about $45 i believe.
> as a note, i investigated several style sheet editors, and found this one
> the best. i had never done thing one with style sheets before that and after
> reading the docs and doing the tutorial, i feel comfortable that i can use
> style sheets pretty effectively. and they are so powerful!
> it is also my understanding that using style sheets as opposed to hard
> coding style is helpful for making *more* accessible web documents,
> separating structure from presentation and making it possible for users to
> override your settings with their own settings and giving them more control
> over how content is conveyed. plus on browsers without css support, they see
> just a plainer version of your page--not hurting the usability at all. not
> to mention how incredibly easy it is to implement style changes after you've
> coded 20 pages!
> i find the combination of amaya--only producing valid code--and style
> sheets, doing things the "right" way, to be a great match, and am very
> excited to be learning so much new stuff.
> i'm sorry to hear the other list member had such a hard time with amaya; i
> realize there are several things i am not currently informed enough to do,
> like fiddling with source code or compiling my own version--many times i
> don't really understand what you all are talking about (but that's how one
> learns).  and people will clearly have a difficult time using the software
> if they don't already have a good understanding of how to use html tags. but
> i personally was thrilled with finding a mostly-wysiwyg editor that produces
> valid code, i want to improve as a designer, and using amaya with css, i
> believe, has really allowed me to do that, fwiw.
> dixie vogel
Received on Monday, 3 April 2000 21:40:53 UTC

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